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Dodger Sticker Shock!

I would stay away from anything other than Sunbrella for material. It usually runs about $15/yd so I'd query the person who is building your cover as to the brand.
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Resurrecting this old thread because prices have changed...

I contracted with a well respected high end canvas shop to replace my ancient POS dodger, and the frame with the following:
Custom sail dodger, 1 " stainless 316L frame, rope groove deck mount, Sunbrella fabric, gore-tex thread, YKK UV zippers, Strataglass .040 window material, removable center window, welded aft grab bar, awning zipper with stamoid covered grab area, rear fixed bracing struts all stainless hardware supplied and installed on site.

In addition, I have elected to have a single tube awning system 1" stainless 316L frame, Two split rail mounts for fixed bracing, side mounted to outside cockpit combing, Zippered pockets and zipper split for single backstay opening installed on site.

The total is slightly north of $7300...

Here is the before picture;

I will post the after next spring when it is finished.
$7300 :l augher
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Actually for the NE that is pretty much going rate for what he ordered. I also suspect he went with one of the best canvas guys in the country who is more artist than a slap it together stitcher like so many...
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I would stay away from anything other than Sunbrella for material. It usually runs about $15/yd so I'd query the person who is building your cover as to the brand.
We went with Stamoid.
It is supposed to last longer.
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Actually for the NE that is pretty much going rate for what he ordered. I also suspect he went with one of the best canvas guys in the country who is more artist than a slap it together stitcher like so many...
Doesn't matter who's building it or where they are located.....it is overpriced! But of course it is.....its for a boat!

Let see, maybe and this is a big maybe, $1-1500 in materials.....thats almost 6000 for labor too funny....hmmmm yep too much for me.
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The bobbin on a professional machine is huge, the arm is about 3x the length of a Sailrite LSZ, and the floor of a loft make moving the sail much easier. I plan to stick to canvas covers and such.
So a Sail Rite sewing machine will not sew all sails? I was thinking of buying one to do sail repair, but curious if it would sew my main sail. I have done repairs to my main by hand and have broken many sail needles. The sail is somthing like 1/2 inch in areas where it is sewen in high stress areas. What type machine do they use to make these?
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Re: Dodger Sticker Shock!

Casey,

We bring our sails home every winter and my wife uses the Sailrite machine to sew and repair stiching ans see,s whoich ahve become degraded. We have a large basement which we bought a special rolloing open table for the machine as well as another table to hold the weight of the sail fabric as it comes through the machine so its supported and can be sewn more easily..

Last year she completely made a new scarificial sunbrella edge for the 155 .

The machine definately has the strength especially with the large weighted wheel to go through the fabric easily. It can be cumbersome in some spots but is a huge monetrray savings. Make sure you use the proper thread.
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Thank you for that! My point, and that of the OP, is that this stuff is pricy!

My money, my decision... There is a reason that an BMW costs more than a Hyundai.

I decided that the dodger NEEDED to be replaced, and that a Bimini would greatly enhance my sailing time. I decided to go with a highly-recommended pro, and not a hacker. I expect that the appearance of the finished product will add to the value of my vessel, and will make the financial sacrifice for a quality product. The dodger and Bimini on my vessel are not components that I wish to compromise.

I will post a write-up, with pictures, when the finished product is ready. You can decide. You can see the turd (above) that I just threw away.

I won't tell you what the estimate for the interior cushions was. That might kill you. I will tell you that it was a good deal more than the dodger and bimini. I also decided that I could live w/ out redoing the interior.
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Thank you for that! My point, and that of the OP, is that this stuff is pricy!

My money, my decision... There is a reason that an BMW costs more than a Hyundai.

I decided that the dodger NEEDED to be replaced, and that a Bimini would greatly enhance my sailing time. I decided to go with a highly-recommended pro, and not a hacker. I expect that the appearance of the finished product will add to the value of my vessel, and will make the financial sacrifice for a quality product. The dodger and Bimini on my vessel are not components that I wish to compromise.

I will post a write-up, with pictures, when the finished product is ready. You can decide. You can see the turd (above) that I just threw away.

I won't tell you what the estimate for the interior cushions was. That might kill you. I will tell you that it was a good deal more than the dodger and bimini. I also decided that I could live w/ out redoing the interior.
did not mean to insult you, $7300 is a lot of money......to me. Amazed that there are people out there that can charge these prices.... and sleep at night...my guess is that he or she will sleep quite well. hope it turns out well. 5-6000 is a ton of labor! I hope you get 60-70 hours out of them at minimum.
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Re: Dodger Sticker Shock!

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So a Sail Rite sewing machine will not sew all sails?
I replaced the luff tape on an old sail and had problems with missed stitches, but the problem turned out to be a wrong sized needle, so it wasn't the machine. But on a 43' luff, I changed bobbins quite a few times. I don't have a setup like Chef, so maneuvering a large, heavy sail is difficult.

Regarding a new sail, that's more complicated. On a smaller, lighter sail I might consider it. But to be honest, a sail is an airfoil and there is more to making one than simply stitching it. Not too many years ago, I would have argued that point, but after buying two new sails in as many years and watching the mainsail being built in person, I've modified my opinion. So I'd make a new sail but only for a smaller boat, perhaps up to 25'.

But for cushions and canvas work, the machine can't be beat. I've saved thousands. I've also made totes, bags, and duffels



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