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You're trying to put an eye-splice in 6mm double-braid?? I was told by my rope suppliers that the minimum size they'd do one was in 1/2" for all the reasons you're having problems!

All the "eye-splices" on my boat (mostly 6mm line) are made by simply bending the end around a thimble back onto itself and stitch whipping it for at least a half inch.. I sounds dodgy, but it takes 5 minutes to do and I have never had one fail.
I have to agree, stitch and whip for double the diameter and it is easy, finish with a cover of self amalgamating rigging tape.

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I have to agree, stitch and whip for double the diameter and it is easy, finish with a cover of self amalgamating rigging tape.
Good idea. If you do that it'll even *look* like an eye-splice!

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I am using StaSet double braid. I used up all that rope trying several times to make the splice I had to cut out the fid a few times (I'm thinking it's too big, it's the smallest one that came with the kit, 5/16"). I'm almost ready to give up accept I am now obsessed with the chalenge and am bent on doing it. I do use the buntline hitch for the main and jib halyards as I am using StaySet X and I can eliminate the need for a cunningham. I spliced my new 3/8" mainsheet using the New England Rope method and I did OK.
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You shouldn't be using a 5/16" FID on 1/4" LINE.

BTW, StaSetX has to be spliced differently than StaSet, since it isn't a double-braid, but has a parallel core.

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yes if its a parallel core it is hard and requiers a splicing needle see instructions for parallel core on the marlow site

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It really depends on the type of line; I had the same trouble with 5/16" Samson XLS Extra-T. It turned out that the only way to splice it is by doing a core-core splice so that the cover does not tuck. The reason is because the cover weave is much tighter and there won't be enough stretch at the neck of the eye for both the cover and the core to pull through.

I do agree that for your topping lift you can just tie a bowline; but for higher strength applications like halyards you will want to splice eyes because a knot cuts the SWL of the line by ~50%

Oh... Noticed your post about the line (StaSet). The biggest reason is probably due to the 5/16" fid. You need a 1/4" fid or smaller; or a splicing needle to pull the tail through (like sailingdog posted). You might be able to do it by inserting the fid pusher in the opposite direction (D to C); then tightly taping with electrical tape the splice tail onto the fid pusher (needle) and carefully pulling it through.

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I agree with Sailingdog. Get the Brion Toss Splicing Wand. It comes with a video CD and cover all the new lines and how to braid them properly. I couldn't do it before with a number of instructions and illustrations. The video and tool made it easy.

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