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Old 04-22-2008
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Do I need a New Shaft?

Do I need a New Shaft?

I pull the shaft to change the cutlass bearing. The shaft is a 1" bronze, but it has some scoring and has worn down were it passes through the CB and stuffing box. Its diameter is .98"

So do I need to replace the shaft? Can I replace it with Stainless Steel
I have not been able to find a sores for a new bronze one.
What brand and type of Cutlass Bearing would you install? ie brass shell
Or non-Metallic Shell ?

Thanks for the help.
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I am surprised with all of the wisdom out here on Sailnet that no one has an answer to my questions.

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Let's break this down into components:

1. Your strut is probably bronze and you can install a brass cutlass bearing. West Marine, Defender and a bunch of others sell them.
2. Sand or file one end of the strut to remove the encrusted paint and to show the cutlass bearing and measure the OD of the bearing (i.e., the ID of the strut).
3. Store the new cutlass bearing in the freezer overnight and transport to the boat in a cooler. Freezing it will shrink the bearing slightly and make installation easier. Coat with dish detergent and PRESS the bearing into the strut. DO NOT pound on it. IM me if you need help with a makeshift press. Use SS set screws and threadlock after GENLTY drilling a VERY shallow detent in the new cutlass bearing (once installed). Don't drill through the thing.
4. If your current shaft is scored, you need a new shaft. You'll have a really tough time finding a bronze shaft, but that's ok because SS is better anyway (stronger, doesn't seem to attract as many barnacles). Save yourself some time, cut the old shaft inside the boat at the stuffing box.
5. When you get a new shaft, you'll need a new transmission coupler mated to it. It's only about $50 more and well worth the investment. Make sure that you tie the locking bolts to each other with SS or monel wire to prevent them from backing out under load.
5. Since you have all this out, I recommend a PSS shaft seal. Others may disagree, but I find them to be well worth the price. It has the added benefit of significantly reducing shaft wear at the cutlass bearing because the shaft is only held in two places - at the transmission and at strut. Slight engine misalignments don't wear the shaft nearly as much as the traditional method where it's held in 3 places - trans, stuffing box, and strut.

I've done this job several times on my boats. It's about a half day job and well worth the effort. Take your time and check everything twice. Good luck
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Sabreman Thanks that what I thought, with the scoring and .02 of reduction in thickness at the stuffing box and CB.
But why do I need a new tranny coupler. the old one still looks like its OK.
Also my boat has a skeg hung rudder so the tube is enclosed.
I m going to put a PSS

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The coupler and the shaft need to fit perfectly or else there could be play and resulting vibration. Add in several thousand RPM and it could be quite a bit of trouble. Also, when the shaft is mated to the coupling, new dimples are drilled in the shaft in alignment with the threaded holes in the coupling. when I installed the shaft on Victoria, the coupling and shaft were beattifully matched for a perfect fit. I've also reused the coupling on another boat and the fit wasn't that great. It may seem like a small thing, but if you're going to do all the rest, the coupling is a small matter and makes for a really clean job.

On the other hand, it may have been a really good sales job from the shafting people.
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You have a nother good point. After all it is less than a boat "Chit" and the job will be dune right.

"Chit" = $100
So a shaft , coupling , cb = 4 chits

I love it and thats what its all about.

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Looks like Sabreman stepped up to the plate! cool.

I was just thinking everyone was being bashful talking about shaft thickness, couplings, and stuffing box problems.
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Looks like Sabreman stepped up to the plate! cool.

I was just thinking everyone was being bashful talking about shaft thickness, couplings, and stuffing box problems.
Stick around long enough and you will learn that there is NO bashfulness about those topics around here, LOL
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