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Don't forget to note whether and where the cables are crossed before you pull them off, or you will find to your embarrassment that the rudder moves the wrong way when you get it all back together again.
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Switching those cables up would be embarrassing and potentially quite expensive. We ran messenger lines for everything and tied off port and starboard accordingly. The suggestion of unlaying one of the strands to attach the messenger worked great. Speaking of lines, as previously mentioned it is a good idea to tie off anything you can with a lanyard before working over the pedestal. While we were fitting the wiring up, I did drop the chain and the lanyard saved me a good bit of work.
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I need some help understanding the application of steering wire clips. The wire on my Edson steering system is 3/16 “ SS. Most of the guidance I have seen for the installation of the wire clips calls for two wire clips with 3-3/4” turnback on the bitter end of the wire. The problem is that with this much turnback, the length of the wire is such that there are not going to be many threads available on the eye bolt to adjust for stretch in the future. I suspect the turnback requirement is a generic industry standard that allows for back and forth bending flex that this system will not see. It seems to me that two inches of turnback for this application should be acceptable. The wire was made up by a local rigger so Edson is not going to be much help. Thanks.
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Edson...

I would think having Edson do it would be the easiest and safest way. I have seen even really good yards (Hinkley) do a crummy job on steering cables. You take the old one off, take measurements, Edson will make you a new one to fit and send it to you. Keep the current as a spare.
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Thanks for the reply. The problem is that even if I bought cables from Edson, I would have the same issue. Replacement cables from them are the same as what I currently have- 3/16" wire with a swaged thimble on one end and thimbles/clips to install on the other end. The radial end can't be made up ahead of time because the thimbles won't fit through the bottom of the pedistal. Getting the operating length correct is no problem (I measured the old ones). The question is how much space do you really need between the two clips on each wire. According to some US Navy literature I found today, 6 cable diameters between clips should be OK. I think I can make that work.
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I need some help understanding the application of steering wire clips. The wire on my Edson steering system is 3/16 “ SS. Most of the guidance I have seen for the installation of the wire clips calls for two wire clips with 3-3/4” turnback on the bitter end of the wire. The problem is that with this much turnback, the length of the wire is such that there are not going to be many threads available on the eye bolt to adjust for stretch in the future. I suspect the turnback requirement is a generic industry standard that allows for back and forth bending flex that this system will not see. It seems to me that two inches of turnback for this application should be acceptable. The wire was made up by a local rigger so Edson is not going to be much help. Thanks.
Radcat, I don't know what a steering wire clip is. Could you be talking about a nico-press sleeve?
What is turnback? Are you talking about the wire you wrap around a thimble which holds a eye-bolt which fastens to the quadrant?
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Knothead,
Yes, this is the wire that connects to the eye-bolt with a thimble. The turnback is the length of the bitter end of the wire measured from the end of the thimble to the end of the wire. The clips are the u-bolt/saddle clamps that connect the bitter end to the standing part. Rigging.net/clips.html has a pretty good description ( I can't include the direct link yet- not enough posts).
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