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Charles,

when you install the mast foot blocks and organizers, make sure you keep the lines away from the mast, at a slight angle to reduce friction, and make sure you have the footblocks angled in the right position.

Have a look at the ones in the photo, light, simple and effective..
these don't pivot around and can be angled with shims..plus, will look SEXY

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If you have a roller furling headsail, then there isn't a real good reason to run that halyard back to the cockpit. You may want to leave that one on the mast.
Why not??

What about when he needs to adjust genoa halyard tension?? He has to go all the way forward..if you are spending time doing it..why not??
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Why not??

What about when he needs to adjust genoa halyard tension?? He has to go all the way forward..if you are spending time doing it..why not??
In my experience, most people don't adjust the halyard tension on their furling headsails very often. Usually, it is hoisted and pretty much left alone until the sail has to come down for one reason or another. If it is necessary to tighten up the halyard, I think that the inconvenience of having to walk forward to the mast is more than offset by the convenience of working from the mast when hoisting or dropping the sail. Especially in you are doing it alone. Besides that, it is one less line cluttering the cockpit.
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I posted a list of used equipment shops. Most on the east coast US but a few west coast. Surf those shops for used winches and talk to them to see if they'll take yours for sale or consignment.
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In my experience, most people don't adjust the halyard tension on their furling headsails very often. Usually, it is hoisted and pretty much left alone until the sail has to come down for one reason or another.
yep you're right...most don't..good point
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If you have a deck stepped mast, I would consider using a halyard organizer plate Dwyer Aluminum Mast Company- Manufacturers of Quality Sailboat Masts, Booms, Hardware and Rigging Since 1963. instead of foot blocks. Allows you to do the same thing without putting so many holes in the deck.
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Good idea..yes...I had one similar in a boat I once owned.

Mine was a plate with inverted U shaped rings welded on the sides

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Most do not adjust the jib halyard once up, but what happens when some idiot that does not know the boat he/she is on, and accidentally releases the clutch? Or if in a really windy or equalish type condition, the jib can not be roller furled? one may want to release the halyard from the cockpit for some reason.

In the end, there is not a good or bad place for some things, just what is "BEST" for you the end user on "YOUR" boat, not mine!

While I like how neat and clean Alex's boat is for leading lines aft, as I recall vs doing the sheaves I have, those are three times the cost. That cost may not be in everyones budget. But you can still get the same effect/end result with different gear that costs less.

Think about footing, where people will be, how you want to line the lines up etc. If you need two lines for say reefing, you may want one line lead to one side, the other to the other side, so you could winch both at the same time if you have more than 2 people on board.

I do not believe there is a right or wrong answer. Just that it had better make sense to you the end user.

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I am going to post a real caution to doing this.

When you run those lines aft, you get the benefit of being able to raise/lower the sails from the cockpit. That is how my boat is arranged too. I like it.

HOWEVER.... A WARNING...

By doing that, you seriously increase the friction, etc on those halyards. Dad's boat (a Tayana 42) is a BEAR to raise the sails from the cockpit - usually putting one person at the mast to help pull the line down while someone winches in at the cockpit. As such, we are actually going to install winches on the mast.

Your boat and load may be small enough that it is not an issue. However, I am giving you my experience from having it both ways. There was a reason (esp on many of the blue water boats) that the winches are on the mast.

Others may dissagree with me, and that is fine. I am giving you my personal experience.

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I have my main halyard lead to cockpit (left winch on mast just in case) genny halyard at mast. Cunningham, vang, outhaul, and reefing all at the mast.
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