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Sailaway's mention of a torch, and my "Oh duh!" recollection that I have a torch bottle to worry about as well, makes me wonder why no one sells a simple positive brass cap to screw onto the bottle as a security fitting?

Just a piece of (non-sparking!) bronze or brass rod, with the 1" female threads tapped into it, and a rubber sheet inside, so it could be screwed onto a gas bottle as a (reusable) "gas tight" cap. The same way that Schraeder valves use caps, and AC fill ports use caps, to make sure the valve isn't leaking.

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BTW, most propane devices can use butane and vice versa with little trouble. The main problem is if you have a CNG device, since CNG has very different characteristics from LPG, Propane or Butane. Be aware that LPG is often a mix of propane and butane.

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Wow. I had no idea that little green bottles were such a popular topic. Many thanks to all of you. I've decided that they're more trouble then they are worth .

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If you are an occasional sailor, Coleman disposable bottles provide 6-8 barby meals. Remember the word disposable! And keep 'em outside the boat, either stored in a proper vented propane locker or on the rail attached to the grill. If you live aboard or manage to spend a LOT of time on the boat, the short hose adapter TB showed above can be attached to a 5 or 10 pound refillable bottle, with a good shutoff valve, available in the gas grill section of your home center store (like Home Depot or Lowe's.) (I got mine from Bass Pro Shop) This smaller bottle can then be suspended from the rail in a canvas bag. Saves the need to run a gas line from a midship propane locker! One can also get an aluminum propane bottle, 5 lb capacity, from West Marine for only about 6 times what my painted steel 5 pounder cost! And since the propane refillers insist that the tank is only good for 10 years before inspection and re-certification, if the steel one lasts 3 years you're money ahead!

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If you live aboard or manage to spend a LOT of time on the boat, the short hose adapter TB showed above can be attached to a 5 or 10 pound refillable bottle,
Insignificant nit-pick point, but the 2 standard, refillable propane cylinder size options are, 10 lb & 20 lb, not 5 lb & 10 lb.

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If you are an occasional sailor, Coleman disposable bottles provide 6-8 barby meals. Remember the word disposable! And keep 'em outside the boat, either stored in a proper vented propane locker or on the rail attached to the grill. If you live aboard or manage to spend a LOT of time on the boat, the short hose adapter TB showed above can be attached to a 5 or 10 pound refillable bottle, with a good shutoff valve, available in the gas grill section of your home center store (like Home Depot or Lowe's.) (I got mine from Bass Pro Shop) This smaller bottle can then be suspended from the rail in a canvas bag. Saves the need to run a gas line from a midship propane locker! One can also get an aluminum propane bottle, 5 lb capacity, from West Marine for only about 6 times what my painted steel 5 pounder cost! And since the propane refillers insist that the tank is only good for 10 years before inspection and re-certification, if the steel one lasts 3 years you're money ahead!

DANG!!! I missed a great thread. Oh well. I knew I shouldn't have gone to the boat and should just stay on sailnet.

At any rate, the above advice is sound. If you grill al lot, those little green bottles get expensive. But I still keep some around because I can take one of my grills to shore for shoreside cookouts.

Cruising, etc... just go get the freaking hose from Homedepot or Lowes. Why would you want to haul around all those little green things? Can you imagine the Jamican's face when you take him a sack full of little green bottles and tell him you want them all refilled??? HEHE! Er hmm, it would go something like: "Eh, mon. You one cheap Bast***. I ain't refillin all them little jugs mon. You fly back to the states and go to Walmart. It be cheaper." HEHE!

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actually- four common sizes- 5, 10, and 20 lb tanks are usually for bbq grills and such, and 30 lb. which is generally used for forklifts and such for steel tanks.. Aluminum tanks are usually 6 lb. and 11 lb. Fiberglass tanks are usually 10, 20 and 30 lb. BTW, the 30 lb. tanks shouldn't be used with bbq grills as a general rule, since they don't have a restrictor to prevent liquid propane from getting out of the tank to the device. Liquid propane getting into a grill is a bad thing.

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Insignificant nit-pick point, but the 2 standard, refillable propane cylinder size options are, 10 lb & 20 lb, not 5 lb & 10 lb.

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Had a 5lb alum. cylinder on a portable grill back in the late 70's - early 80s . . . tossed it since I couldn't get it refilled anywhere. I don't think it's standard today and not many cruisers keep that size onboard.

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I love my 5 and 10 pound refillable cylinders for the boats magma, BBQ picnics, the beach, camping etc. A great size for portability. As someone who has worked in the propane industy, a jury rig is no place for a propane rig! Get the adapter hose and a refillable cylinder which will pay for itself quickly.
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I love my 5 and 10 pound refillable cylinders for the boats magma, BBQ picnics, the beach, camping etc. A great size for portability. As someone who has worked in the propane industy, a jury rig is no place for a propane rig! Get the adapter hose and a refillable cylinder which will pay for itself quickly.
just a question-where did you get the tanks,i just went to ct,home depot,lowes this past weekend and cant find them.my next stop is a bbq store but they generally have bigger tanks.
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