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Good advice above. Your personal test will come when the winch snubber is lowering you back down (this should be somebody you trust and have not mistreated in life) and you reach the spreaders (for me, there was only one set of spreaders, nowadays it might even be two or three sets). When you get there, *resist* the temptation to put your feet onto the spreaders and "rest". This is the sign of an amateur. Be a "pro", let your feet and legs dangle below the spreaders as the winchdude (or dudette) lowers you, and continue your trip down. You will then arrive on deck in a casual James-Bondish way and should then be recognized as an experinced mast-climber/descender, and should be rewarded with a rum and Coke.
I don't let anyone lower me back to the deck. That's why I use a block and tackle hauled up on a halyard.
I'll never refuse someones help hauling me up but I'll never take my hand off the line.
When it's time to come down, I don't need help. Gravity provides the power.
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As a fat capt'n that normally sails alone, I first tried the ascender, then I bought a mast step, then the Top climber. Finely I went with the 6-1 pully. I could not controll the mast climber and my feet would not fit in the web steps. I have them all for sale used (tried to use ) once. I will try the 6-1 next week, it may be for sale also. I have no local rigger.
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This is pretty funny issue about the mast. I'm a professional (listed in ABYC) and it seems that we all (professionals) agree that there is always a better way to try and do it. There is always an easier way(cherry picker basket). Safer way ( 37 people on deck with nets and lines, or pay someone else to do it. I just feel what ever method you do, you should be able to do it alone if necessary for that one time when you don't have all this help. If you get up and back down without any major issues then you were successful. I use 300' of V-12 Vectran single braid. It's light weight and stores easily. It may cost a little but then I don't have to hire a rigger. No offense to Knothead. Rigger services are crucial for their expertise. Good luck, this has been fun.
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I don't understand what I am doing wrong when attaching photos.
looking at my previous post all I see is the text "attached images" But no photo and nothing to click on.
When I preview the post, the photo shows up fine. But later on it doesn't seem to be there.Attachment 1601
SD, what the heck am I doing wrong?

I'm going to try it again.

Edit: Still don't see anything. Damn.

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Thanks for all the pointers! I've done some mountain climbing and rapelling but didn't even think of using the ascender. Great idea. Block and tackle looks good too. I don't care about looking like an amature, I'll grab, stand, bite the spreaders or anything else that will offer security. I'd strap on an air bag if that would save hospital time and clean up, I just waxed the deck!

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I don't let anyone lower me back to the deck. That's why I use a block and tackle hauled up on a halyard.
I'll never refuse someones help hauling me up but I'll never take my hand off the line.
When it's time to come down, I don't need help. Gravity provides the power.
Well, you gotta trust somebody sometime. It's just that on sailboats, that chance comes up more often than it does on shore, particularly if you're the one dangling from the main halyard. I've trusted my "anchormen", and I guess this trust was well-placed, or my fingers, and the rest of me, wouldn't be around to be typing and giving dubious advice ;-)
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OK, I've got it figured out. I have a good bosun's seat. I have to check some wire connections and change a couple of bulbs to LEDs. So that means two trips. I have a safety belt, I'm using both halyards and 2 winches. I will likely have two friends cranking away. My $1,000,000 question....How do I get safely lowered down? The winches only turn one way?? I can shinny and this is probably a dumb question...I'd really like the 'standard of care' answer.
I did see that post where Pigslo suggested paying a rigger $50...thats still an option.
the way i have always gone up the mast is a very simple (not as comfortable) prusik knot around the mast. it is even better when using webbing opposed to regular line. but they will all work. it would take three lengths (possible four for added ease in traversing spreaders)
wikipedia a prusik knot for a picture if you dont know what it looks like.
Attach one to a harness or fashion one out of rope/webbing (easy to do), then another with a foot loop. shimmy your way up, and down. like taking the slow stairs.
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As a fat capt'n that normally sails alone, I first tried the ascender, then I bought a mast step, then the Top climber. Finely I went with the 6-1 pully. I could not controll the mast climber and my feet would not fit in the web steps. I have them all for sale used (tried to use ) once. I will try the 6-1 next week, it may be for sale also. I have no local rigger.
I'm also a fat single-handed cap'n, and also an old n' ugly one too. I suggest you try the Topclimber a few more times before you chuck it. I've had mine for 9 years, and haven't needed anyones help in all that time. I've made as many as 7 round trips(up & down) in one day. Make sure you're doing it properly. If you can stand up & sitdown from a chair, you can do the Topclimber. If you can't do that, how do you think you could pull yourself up a mast? By the way I'll be 71, come Sept.
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the way i have always gone up the mast is a very simple (not as comfortable) prusik knot around the mast. it is even better when using webbing opposed to regular line. but they will all work. it would take three lengths (possible four for added ease in traversing spreaders)
wikipedia a prusik knot for a picture if you dont know what it looks like.
Attach one to a harness or fashion one out of rope/webbing (easy to do), then another with a foot loop. shimmy your way up, and down. like taking the slow stairs.
Do you tie this knot around the mast or around another line like a halyard?
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