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Read this article as to why I think why Double LIne reefing is better.
Wow... great article SD. Never really thought about it that way.. Tack first then clew.. control the tension...

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Most traveler setups for boats your size are not going to be able to handle 1/2 line in the traveler line control cars. Most will top out at about 3/8" or so... so it also means getting heavier (and more expensive) cars and track.
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Most traveler setups for boats your size are not going to be able to handle 1/2 line in the traveler line control cars. Most will top out at about 3/8" or so... so it also means getting heavier (and more expensive) cars and track.
Yeah....looking at that now.... 1/2 is out.
I may be able to squeeze the 7/16 in the 3/8... hmmm

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That's the size I'm looking at.. .may go with a different style.. but I think I may end up with th 3/8ths...
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If you try using 7/16" in a sheave that has a max line diameter of 3/8", you'll get a lot of friction and chafing...
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I know... i know hrumph... Gotta see what the price difference is...

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You could always add a cover to the end of the line, to make it a larger diameter... but that would only work for some of the line.
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Well.. I went 1/2 because it's always in the hand.. constantly being adjusted... larger diameter is easier on the hand... but that also drives up the cost of the hardware... I don't think I'll go below 7/16 on that one...
Gotta go with the Dog on this one, Craig.. going with that heavy a line on the traveller is just going to be overkill. If the traveller is set up with good blocks, enough parts and a good lead to the user, 3/8" is a big as you should need to go. I get your point about the hand of a larger line, but the added bulk & volume of line and expense of the gear really doesn't make sense to me.

While the traveller is, as you say, adjusted often it's rarely held under load longer than it takes to adjust and recleat it. Focus on a good design/layout and you should be fine with lighter line (and happier in the long run).

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Well.. thanks to all of you for your input.

Here are a few pics... I'll also post a lessons learned... Drilling that many holes in your deck, you're bound to learn something!

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