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Just a question: can it be converted over to a manual vest should you only have a CO2 cartridges as a spare?
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eherlihy, that is a much more useful answer than "um..." Sailingdog.

Sailingdog, one of the fun things to do (and quite educational) is to jump in and test lifejackets every once in a while. At $50 bucks a jump, and who knows how many jumps 'til the entire thing needs replacing it limits the confidence building PFD test. With the manually activated you can have lots of fun for almost nothing. It also restricts the use of the PFD to water sports where you won't likely get wet. So much for messing around in small boats when a spill will cost $50. It really means that you'll have to have two PFDs, one for the "yacht" (the hydrostat) and another for everything else.

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Just a question: can it be converted over to a manual vest should you only have a CO2 cartridges as a spare?
Excellent question. I'd be interested in the answer since I just bought one this spring. Frankly, it never occurred to me, but I could see where it might be helpful to have this option if a full auto re-arm kit is not available.


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It also restricts the use of the PFD to water sports where you won't likely get wet. So much for messing around in small boats when a spill will cost $50. It really means that you'll have to have two PFDs, one for the "yacht" (the hydrostat) and another for everything else.
That is another good point which I've recently come to realize. There probably is no one PFD that does it all. I think for small boats (sailing dinghies, kayaks, etc) most folks would be better served by a closed-cell foam sport vest than by any type (manual or auto) of inflatable PFD.


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While the plastic bits are replaced, the bladder opening itself could wear... and that isn't replaced... which is why I answered the way I did.

The hydrostatic PFDs won't trigger due to water spray generally and need to be immersed a full FOUR INCHES to get them to trigger.

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BTW, the WM PFDs are made by Mustang IIRC.
It's been 9 months and 10k posts, but I got a SD boo-boo. Sterns makes the WM PFD's.

Plumper, my manual inflate fanny pack style PFD's are great for kids jumping in as a fun thing and only run 9 bucks a 16 gram cannister. It's a great way to 'test' them.
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/\/\ Depends which vest. Some are made by Mustang. I believe all hydrostatics that WM sells are mustang like this one:
West Marine Vest

It even has the Mustang logo on it

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While the plastic bits are replaced, the bladder opening itself could wear... and that isn't replaced... which is why I answered the way I did.

The hydrostatic PFDs won't trigger due to water spray generally and need to be immersed a full FOUR INCHES to get them to trigger.
Um....thanks.

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Might want to check the video on this webpage on the WM site.

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Might want to check out the PS article, clearly says the ones I have are made by stearns.
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I have both hydro and pellet

I have the Mustang 3183 (non-harness version of 3184) and a WM Auto/Manual Inflatable PFD. Both inflate automatically when submersed in water.

I use the hydro Mustang version model, over the tablet WM model in the heavy wet weather, as I don't want to have it prematurely go off. I know that the likelihood is extremely, extremely small that this would happen.

The cost of rearming the tablet model is less than the hydrostatic model which is why at all other times, I use the non-hydrostatic WM PFD.

All my self-inflating PFDs are automatic for safety reasons. If one is unconscious when knocked off the boat, a manual model is useless.

As far as who makes WM models, I do believe that Stearns and Mustang supply them.

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