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Tqxin 06-01-2008 12:59 AM

Bottom Repairs
 
I have a 1975 Rhodes 22, that will stay in the water (salt water) all of the time when finished.
Bottom paint is chipping off down to the fiberglass; I can see a few spots that have been patched in the past. No leaks that I am aware of (it holds water quite well after some rain:D ) what would be the best methods to refurbish the bottom of this boat. Of course some sanding will need to be done, but should I sand it all down to the glass or just get the loose stuff off (most of it is chipping off). After sanded should I cover the bottom with epoxy followed by gelcoat and then anti fouling paint? Should I do it in that order? Give me a rundown of what you would do and how you would do it please.

T37Chef 06-01-2008 02:51 AM

Some tips...
 
The spring after we purchased our boat, there was a lot of paint build up and was flaking off, etc. So I had the bottom blasted only to find these...:eek: Mostly little blisters, not deep, with the exception of about 10 that I ground out.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...7-mar06004.jpg


Here I am sanding ALL the remaining bottom paint off...wear proper safety protection!!! ;)


http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...tomPics002.jpg


Still going...all day long...:(


http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...tomPics003.jpg


After sanding down to white gelcoat, I washed it about once a week for about 4 weeks to remove bad stuff, acids, reisdues, etc. then let it dry for another 6 weeks or so :D

Then I started to fill and fair the bottom. I used West System with filler which has the brown color you see below. I also tried a vinylester product (forgetting the name at the moment) which you see in blue.

Remember...epoxy over the vinylester okay, but not the other way around ;)


http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...tomPics020.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...tomPics009.jpg


more filling & fairing...:eek:


http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...tomPics008.jpg


Finally...the barrier coat application (gray)...starting to see progress, I put 5 coats on the hull with 3 more or 8 total on the bottom and forward part of the keel & rudder...:cool:


http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...tomPics024.jpg



http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...tomPics025.jpg


Before the last coat of barrier coat cured, about 3 hours in 90 degree Maryland weather, I applied the first coat of bottom paint. Doing this should help form a good bond between the two. I used an ablative paint in black, of which I applied two coats.




http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...tomPics027.jpg


Here I start to apply the third bottom paint coat, but in blue, so I can see when its time to re-coat...;)


http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...tomPics028.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...tomPics030.jpg



Finally done painting...yea right...:D


http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...tomPics036.jpg



Here you can see where I removed the PO's try at a boot strip, I just took the bottom paint up another 1 1/2"...


http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...tomPics034.jpg


Finally this spring I painted a new boot stripe...:D I need to do some repairs to the stripe due to the sling when we splashed her but I'm pretty happy overall.

Its been three years now since I have barrier coated the bottom, leaving the boat in year round. This spring there were no signs of blistering. :cool: ;) :D


http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...stonhard02.jpg


Total cost to blast, sand (ended up renting a sander from the yard), fillers, barrier coat and three coats of paint, if I remember correctly was just over $2000.00 and about 60 hours of time give or take.

Good luck, theres lot here that you can search for on the topic...;)


http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...stonhard04.jpg

camaraderie 06-01-2008 11:02 AM

Nicely documented Chef!

Tqxin 06-01-2008 01:46 PM

Thank you Chef.

L02314564 06-01-2008 02:32 PM

Very informative Chef! Written so that even I can understand. Thank You!

sailingdog 06-02-2008 04:26 PM

Nicely done. :)

T37Chef 03-16-2009 05:47 PM

Damn, that is a nice looking yacht!
 
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...stonhard04.jpg

sailingdog 03-16-2009 08:14 PM

Maybe, a bit biased there. :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by T37Chef (Post 462775)


cutterorient 03-19-2009 09:22 AM

T37 Chef, nice. I am doing the same thing right now on a 1983 Mason. After soda blasting - which uncovers all defects/impacts/etc - I too noticed what I call irregularities in the gelcoat. Bumps in places that held no water (visually or with the moisture meter ) and their counterpart the crater. The craters are only the gelcoat. I sanded the entire bottom, am now filling with MAS FLAG epoxy / micro baloon mix. The number of the little 'imperfections' are likely more than 10,000. I am also doing a rudder repair and repairing and fairing the substantial area on the underside of the keel. When she is sanded again to fair ( all excess faring mix off ) I will barrier coat with the same epoxy, unthickened of course. I will tint the epoxy grey and let it to a full cure, slap some paint on and then, of course, sail it. I chose to barrier coat with MAS for the following; have used in the past with great results for other projects, VOC free, blush free, excellent customer service when I called with loads of questions, cost effective, you can vary pot life/ mix and match resin hardeners, and there is no 'window' to paint with antifouling. Just let it cure fully and then paint when you want.


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