Interior Varnishing - SailNet Community
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 17 Old 06-05-2008 Thread Starter
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 129
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Interior Varnishing

In a previous post I enquired about improving my dull and tired oil finnish. I've finally found the time to tackle it. The PO only put a couple of coats on many years ago and it has no gloss and looks very dry and I think offering little protection. I thought I would start with the unfinished hatch covers. They seem to me the same teak plywood as the rest of the interior panals. I tried Helmsman clear gloss on them. It went on very easily with no sags or runs. After two coats they look just ok. At least they have some protection on them and aren't in view. I also tried one coat on a piece from the cabin that was previously oiled. It came up really nice and really brought out the grain. I guess the difference with the raw wood not being sealed made a big difference. I really liked the ease of application and I think it would go on very easily on the vertical panals. Would you go for this on all your interior panals. Would the gloss be to much. To me it is a huge improvement over the lifeless appearance I have now. I am also concerned about future maintenance and durability. I am also considering useing epifanes clear gloss wood finish or wests wood pro or maybe even a traditional varnish. The thought of getting away without sanding has some appeal. I am a little afraid of all the verticle surfaces so I want something that goes on easily. And for an entirely different thought, I got a suggestion at the marina from a wood worker who really liked polermized tung oil from lee valley. After 4 or 5 coats wiped on with no buffing it looks like varnish. Anyone try that. I would appreciate any imput.
bushrat is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 17 Old 06-05-2008
Senior Member
 
Freesail99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 4,507
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
Send a message via Yahoo to Freesail99
Helmsman clear gloss is a Spar Urethane, your going to find that very hard to repair or touch up. I wouldn't use it.

S/V Scheherazade
-----------------------
I had a dream, I was sailing, I was happy, I was even smiling. Then I looked down and saw that I was on a multi-hull and woke up suddenly in a cold sweat.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Freesail99 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 17 Old 06-05-2008
ASA and PSIA Instructor
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,593
Thanks: 7
Thanked 25 Times in 25 Posts
Rep Power: 16
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bushrat View Post
.... I thought I would start with the unfinished hatch covers. They seem to me the same teak plywood as the rest of the interior panals. I tried Helmsman clear gloss on them. It went on very easily with no sags or runs. After two coats they look just ok. ...... I am also concerned about future maintenance and durability. .
Newly varnished teak should look breathe-taking, how did you clean and prep the teak before varnishing, tha tis half the job.

As to varnishing the interior, how long do you expect to keep your boat...if you expect to keep it for more than the life of the varnish application, say 6-10 years, then don't put the varnish on, because you never want to be around when it needs to all be removed. In other words, don't use varnish, unless you have a yacht where money and time are no objects, and only the best will do. I've recently put one coat of Cetal natural teak on my interior after cleaning and I find the result very pleasing, if a slight bit of a compromise.

Certified...in several regards...
sailingfool is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 17 Old 06-05-2008 Thread Starter
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 129
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Free, Thats my biggest reservation. Living with it long term. It does go on easily though. I read you used Toikenans. Is that a satin finnish. Is it on your interior or exterior
bushrat is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 17 Old 06-05-2008 Thread Starter
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 129
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Sailingfool, I gave the unfinished wood a light 220 sanding to take off some dirt then a 320 light sand then wiped it down with acetone. No stain or sealer. On the oiled piece I only wiped down with acetone and it looks the best. Aren't you worried about trying to remove cetol someday? I would really like to have the cabin looking nice. To me that's part of the enjoyment of the boat. I do want a fairly easy solution that I can live with long term and I am willing to factor in maintenance of any finish.
bushrat is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 17 Old 06-05-2008
Senior Member
 
Freesail99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 4,507
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
Send a message via Yahoo to Freesail99
I used Toikenans on my exterior. I use cabots high gloss on my interior.

S/V Scheherazade
-----------------------
I had a dream, I was sailing, I was happy, I was even smiling. Then I looked down and saw that I was on a multi-hull and woke up suddenly in a cold sweat.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Freesail99 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 17 Old 06-05-2008
ASA and PSIA Instructor
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,593
Thanks: 7
Thanked 25 Times in 25 Posts
Rep Power: 16
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bushrat View Post
Sailingfool, I gave the unfinished wood a light 220 sanding to take off some dirt then a 320 light sand then wiped it down with acetone. No stain or sealer. ... Aren't you worried about trying to remove cetol someday? I would really like to have the cabin looking nice. To me that's part of the enjoyment of the boat. I do want a fairly easy solution that I can live with long term and I am willing to factor in maintenance of any finish.
You should use a two part cleaner and brightener product on the teak prior to finishing it, then you'll get the color and look that you want.
Cetol is very easy to remove, if should you ever want to. The magic of Cetol products is that you don't need to remove them...if maintenance is needed, just sand and apply some more. the resulting finish is not a Bristol, but it looks quite nice and the whole interior only took about 6-7 hours.

Certified...in several regards...
sailingfool is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 17 Old 06-05-2008 Thread Starter
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 129
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Over on the wooden boat site they are raving about behr super spar you can get at home depot. Anyone try that? It certainly is inexpensive. They are all in a panic because home depot is suppose to be discontinuing it.
bushrat is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 17 Old 06-05-2008
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 268
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 12
 
I'm doing our interior with Helmsman poly clear gloss. Looks great and has to be as good as the stuff that's been on the wood for 25 years! The interior doesn't get the abuse that the exterior wood gets, so I'm not concerned about that. I'm using regular varnish on the exterior (not polyurethane which peels). If you mess around enough doing the "correct" thing with boats, you'll never get out of the slip! Good luck to ya.
sander06 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 17 Old 06-05-2008
Member
 
Catalina274me's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver,Wa
Posts: 64
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
I second Sailingfools recomendation of Cetol. That is what I used on interior and exterior of my old boat and I like the ease of touch-ups. It holds up well. On the interior when dusting I use Armor All and it not only collects the dust but looks great too. Its nice having the same finish on the interior and exterior so I don't have to deal with more than one product. Touchups are easier that way also. Just my opinion, as your mileage may differ.

Catalina 27
Columbia River, Wa

Last edited by Catalina274me; 06-05-2008 at 08:01 PM. Reason: spelling
Catalina274me is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome