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I use a surplus metal 50 mm ammo canister I bought for $6 to keep my medical stuff in. It even has a seal on the lid, to keep the contains dry.
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First Aid Kit

Julie,
Unfortunately most of the prepacked kits contain many useless or in some instances harmful items. Medical treatment away from immediate help needs to be looked at differently, for example in most circumstances it is better not to close a wound tightly (sutures, staples, dermabond) but instead cleanse bandage and plan on delayed closure (after 2-3 days) or closure by secondary intent (let nature take it's course). I have to second Sailing Dogs book recommendation, it is very well written. If you would like to email me with some specific requirements I would be glad to help you put together a list of things to buy and build your own kit. BTW my background is 18 years of prehospital and emergency medicine. Feel free to email me at michaelnelson70 at gmail dot com.
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If you would like to email me with some specific requirements I would be glad to help you put together a list of things to buy and build your own kit.
Hey Tex, if you're thinking of putting together a list of what you consider a good kit, would you mind just posting it here? I, for one, would also like to see it.

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I'd be glad to, I won't be able to get to it until tonight or tommorrow morning. I'm at work until midnight tonight. I think a kit needs to be somewhat individualized based on type of sailing, area of sailing and passenger/crew medical histories/concerns. After I post the kit basics, I'd be glad to help anyone individualize their kit, it is the very least I can do to return the immense knowledge I have gained from this site.
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Thanks Mike. Look forward to seeing your list.
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I'd be glad to, I won't be able to get to it until tonight or tommorrow morning. I'm at work until midnight tonight. I think a kit needs to be somewhat individualized based on type of sailing, area of sailing and passenger/crew medical histories/concerns. After I post the kit basics, I'd be glad to help anyone individualize their kit, it is the very least I can do to return the immense knowledge I have gained from this site.
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BTW, I actually prefer Eric Weiss's older book, which has more of a focus on marine medicine and issues. IIRC, this is the book that is included in many of their larger medical kits.


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Again, I agree with you SD. (Must be something seriously wrong with me )
I just got back from a Wilderness Medicine conference and none of the books I looked at seemed as user friendly for a lay person as Weiss's stuff.
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You must be seriously ill or demented, since you keep agreeing with me.

Weiss's books aren't traditional first aid books, which are generally geared to situations where first responders are less than an hour away, and hospitalization is an option within a few hours usually. His books are written for when you're four weeks along a trail with no way out or four weeks of sailing away from help.

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I just got back from a Wilderness Medicine conference and none of the books I looked at seemed as user friendly for a lay person as Weiss's stuff.
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Quick Take on the Daysail/Costal Cruising Medical Kit

I'm having a slow day at work so I will try and post this from memory and random thoughts, I reserve the right to edit it when I get home and can get to my lists.
First some caveat's
1. This is my opinion at this point in time, if you ask 3 medical people for their opinion, you are likely to get 5-6 answers.
2. I am a minimalist when I can be, I prefer objects with multiple uses.
3. This is intended for use within 3-4 hours of formal medical attention by laypersons. Things change quickly when offshore or more than a few hours from attention.
4. This is not all inclusive, but I think it provides a reasonable amount of safety and ability to respond to emergency situations.
5. As I stated above, I would be more than glad to help anyone with individual kit needs.
6. All of these items should be available over-the-counter. Prescription items do have a role in a proper medical kit in my opinion, but for now I am not going to list my preferences here.
7. I will post the item, sometimes a brief explanation, and a quick cost estimate. These are in no particular order, just as I think of them.

First Aid Manual - pick your favorite, I like Weiss's but many others exist and are well written. Go to a used book store and look through them, pick one with topics by body regions/complaints not diagnosis. $15

Hydration/Electrolyte replacement - pick your favorite type but preferably in a flavor you don't like so it is there when you need it. $5

Moleskin - blister coverage $1

Mosquito Spray - yes I consider it first aid, Dengue Fever anyone? $3

Sunblock - see above but substitute bad sunburn $10

Antibiotic Ointment - after cleansing wound and before covering $1

4x4 guaze - covers all wounds, clean but not sterile $1

Vet Wrap - stretchy tape like substance, somewhat waterproof, self adhesive, works to hold on guaze or protect joints like Ace Wraps - $2/roll

Tylenol - Safe in most people allergic to Aspirin or Ibuprofen - $3

Naprosyn - Great anti-inflamatory/pain med - $5

Benadryl - good for minor allergic reactions, helps in motion sickness, helps with nausea $1

Betadine solution - dilute and use as wound cleanser, 10 drops/liter of water will purify relatively clean water in an emergency (tastes terrible though) $1

Chemical Ice Packs - great for injuries, rapid adult beverage chilling reusable models do exist $2-5 each

Eye Wash solution - rinse that seagull cr$%p out of your eyes $2

Gloves - medical gloves rip/tear/break down over time. Clean pair of dishwashing gloves doesn't (pink is a nice color on all of us ) $3

Hydrocortisone Cream - good for most rashes/itching - $1

Immodium - Antidiarrheal nuff said $3

Hemostats - great for splinters, toolkits, holding stuff up and together 4/$7

Safety Pins - slings and other uses most don't want to think of - $1

Sam Splint - shapeable, sizeable splint for most common sprains/fractures - $20

EMS Shears - cuts almost anything but skin - $5

Triangle Bandage - Great for slings - $1

Alcohol Hand Gel - pre and post bloody mess clean up for your hands, seriously though, studies show at least as effective as soap and water if not more so - $2

Ziplocks to keep it dry and a bag to carry and organize it in (use one of the numerous conference bags we have all received as giveaways.

Estimated cost (if my math is right, I don't have a calculator in front of me right now.................

$104

Much less than most prepacked kits. Although if anyone wants to send me $300 or so, I'll be glad to pack this all up in a conference bag of my choice and ship it to you.

Okay let the yeah but what about.....? begin

Seriously, I'll be glad to answer any questions ya'll have. I'm sure I didn't think of everything, but I do have opinions (some rather strong) on many of the items sold to boaters in the name of medical "safety."

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