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anderbra 06-08-2008 05:59 PM

Solving Barient winch jam
 
So this morning I was hoisting my genny (with pendant installed) to go for a sail, when the halyard winch locked. So I disassembled the winch and I found a broken cotter pin jammed in the gear.
I look around and see only one place where it could have been. However, when I placed a new pin, the whinch would not work.
The winch in question is a Barient 18, installed on the mast.
Does anyone has an exploded view of this (or equivalent) winch that shows where a cotter pin should be placed?
Thank you for any help on this issue. BTW, I even forgot I was going sailing.

tdw 06-08-2008 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderbra (Post 326261)
So this morning I was hoisting my genny (with pendant installed) to go for a sail, when the halyard winch locked. So I disassembled the winch and I found a broken cotter pin jammed in the gear.
I look around and see only one place where it could have been. However, when I placed a new pin, the whinch would not work.
The winch in question is a Barient 18, installed on the mast.
Does anyone has an exploded view of this (or equivalent) winch that shows where a cotter pin should be placed?
Thank you for any help on this issue. BTW, I even forgot I was going sailing.

My guess would be that the force of the pin jamming has either bent something else or thrown something out of whack.

All the old Barient stock of parts was pucrhased by Arco - Australian Winch Company when Barient closed down. Allan Hutton at Arco will be able to email you the necessary docs (if you ask nicely) and if they are still available suppy you with any necessary parts.

Arco have a weird reputation. Sometimes I hear reports that they can take forever to react to a request but my dealings with them have always been super positive.

www.arco-winches.com

L02314564 06-08-2008 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderbra (Post 326261)
So this morning I was hoisting my genny (with pendant installed) to go for a sail, when the halyard winch locked. So I disassembled the winch and I found a broken cotter pin jammed in the gear.
I look around and see only one place where it could have been. However, when I placed a new pin, the whinch would not work.
The winch in question is a Barient 18, installed on the mast.
Does anyone has an exploded view of this (or equivalent) winch that shows where a cotter pin should be placed?
Thank you for any help on this issue. BTW, I even forgot I was going sailing.

Not exactly sure about the cotter pin for a Barient 18, but there is one that is used to retain the IDLER GEAR SHAFT to the main base on the 27. I don't have an exploded view for the 18, but this link will give you views of several winches in the 18 range. Hope it helps.

http://www.ewmanchester.com/CalDocs/...ts-Service.pdf.

Windborn 06-08-2008 07:32 PM

winch data
 
Anderbra,

I have some Barlow / Barient winch data sheets that might help, but I can't post them for some reason. Send me a PM with your email address and I'll send you the PDF. Perhaps you can then post them for the group.


Tom

anderbra 06-08-2008 08:11 PM

thank you guys,

TDW, I've sent an e-mail to Arco as suggested.
L02314564, I've printed the link data which seems the same as Windborn's pdf file and will review.

Cheers,

Bryan

L02314564 06-08-2008 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anderbra (Post 326304)
thank you guys,

TDW, I've sent an e-mail to Arco as suggested.
L02314564, I've printed the link data which seems the same as Windborn's pdf file and will review.

Cheers,

Bryan

Bryan,

I just finished rebuilding 2 Barient 16's and 2 Harken 32's. I hope it all works out for you.

rocinante33 06-08-2008 09:03 PM

There is a link to the Barient 18 diagram, courtesy of Ericsonyachts.org. It is a PDF file. Go to that web site, then to;

Links, Resources & Downloads > EY.o Downloads Center > Non-Model Specific Documentation

I would post the URL directly, but Sailnet won't allow me to, as I have fewer than 10 postings in my history.

L02314564 06-08-2008 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocinante33 (Post 326322)
There is a link to the Barient 18 diagram, courtesy of Ericsonyachts.org. It is a PDF file. Go to that web site, then to;

Links, Resources & Downloads > EY.o Downloads Center > Non-Model Specific Documentation

I would post the URL directly, but Sailnet won't allow me to, as I have fewer than 10 postings in my history.


Excellent source, but you must become a registered user to download.

Links, Resources & Downloads - EY.o Information Exchange

This link might work since I copied it while I was logged in.

tenuki 06-08-2008 10:07 PM

I have good things to say about Arco Hutton, but would recommend you call them instead of relying on the internet. Have the old parts in hand, they will ask you things like color, etc that you may not know offhand.

Bruno is the guy I dealt with he's extremely knowledgable, helpful, and speedy. Rebuilt 4 barlow winches with his help at a huge cost savings.

BarryL 06-08-2008 10:12 PM

Hello,

Last year I needed some Barlow winch parts (a shaft somehow managed to go swimming when I rebuilt the winch. I was able to get all the parts I needed here:

HUTTON-ARCO Yacht Winches

Look at 'Service' and 'Spare Parts'.

The prices were great and the parts are perfect. It took a while for delivery. They were good at responding via email.

I don't recall seeing any cotter pins in any winch. If you have another winch, try taking it apart to see the difference between the two.

Good luck,
Barry


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