Originally Posted by dgr
So, my survey came back with I need to attend to the standing rigging. Surveyor listed under "Recommendations," "The standing rigging lower swaged terminals appear to be the age of the vessel and show surface crevice corrosion. At a minimum the lower end fittings should be cut off and the lower
terminals replaced with a swaged or other style terminals, toggles added as necessary to restore rigging length."
Speaking with the surveyor, he basically told me that this is something that should be attended to sooner than later but he had no concerns putting this boat out in San Francisco bay. BoatUS Insurance company came back with a 'no navigation' policy until I address the above.
So, my question is, has anyone heard of doing the above with the bottom terminals? The only consideration I am giving this is that I would be able to replace the bottom terminals myself. Where does one even find the toggles he speaks of? I see that my forestay has a 90 degree toggle but find nothing when looking for these online.
Thank you for your time.
Drg, What exactly is the age of the vessel?
Where has the boat spent most of it's time since new?
Did your surveyor go aloft to inspect the entire rig?
To answer your question. Yes, it's not an uncommon practice at all to cut the bottom swage off and then install another fitting in it's place.
The point that Cam brought up is very important though.
If your top terminals have problems, what is the point in only replacing the bottom ones.
If your wire has problems, again, the whole rig should be replaced.
If you do decide to just do the bottoms and are going to do it yourself, then your only real option is to use mechanical fittings. Some of the mechanicals are extra long to make up for what wire you've lost in the old swage. Thereby avoiding the use of toggles.
You stated that the swages in question showed surface crevice corrosion. In my mind that is not the same as swage cracks.
Did you hire the surveyor? Was the survey done to acquire insurance? Did you just buy the boat and thus the survey?
I can't tell you how many times I have been hired to perform a rigging inspection on vessels that have just undergone a survey. Sometime they just didn't want to go aloft. Sometimes it was that the buyer didn't trust the sellers surveyor. There are lots of different reasons. Once a surveyor condemned a rig on a Catalina 27 because of "bananna swages" (curved swages). This was a relativity new rig built by Catalina. Or at least came with the boat.
I don't like bad swages either and curved ones aren't good, but almost every Catalina of that range around that time had them. It didn't need to be condemned. Hell, they were selling them new that way.
You may want to consider having a rigger or your own trusted surveyor check out the rigging.
One last point. Right now we have a re rig in the works on a Hunter. On my very first trip aloft I noticed that the wire had numerous spot of heavy rust. Almost every one of these spots, upon close examination revealed a broken strand of wire. And we didn't find a single cracked swage on the entire rig. And This is a B&R rig. There are lots of terminals.