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Does anyone know where I can find a replacement pressure alcohol tank? I have scoured the net and I cannot find one. Thanks.

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Buy a new stove.Alcohol Stoves - Origo Stoves
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If you've got an old pressurized alcohol stove, I'd ditch it in favor of a non-pressurized one. The pressurized ones were a good cause of many boat fires. YMMV.
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If you've got an old pressurized alcohol stove, I'd ditch it in favor of a non-pressurized one. The pressurized ones were a good cause of many boat fires. YMMV.
True. On the one hand there was the boat that was previously in our slip, or one next to it, where the owner had a flare-up from his alcohol stove, put it out, went to the hospital to have his burns treated, and returned to find his boat burned nearly to the waterline.

On the other hand there was our temporary slip neighbours this spring that have been cruising with their current boat for 27 years and have had only three flare-ups, only one of them relatively bad, and none bad enough to warrant the fire extinguisher. (They plan to convert to propane. But they already have a dedicated, external propane locker.)

The problem with the non-pressurized alcohol stoves, as I understand it, is they generate much less heat than the pressurized ones.

We haven't decided what we're going to do. The pressurized stove makes me a bit antsy, and makes the Admiral a lot antsy. But a non-pressurized alcohol stove doesn't get very hot, retro-fitting our boat for propane would be Very Expensive, and CNG is both difficult and expensive to get refilled.

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the non-pressurized alcohol stoves generate plenty of heat....not as easy to control as LPG, but still quite workable.
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I'm still against the gas stoves... Though I may have to buy a camping stove to replace the old alcohol stove since a burner is clogged... But I can take the small propane tank off the stove and off the boat when we are not using the stove or when we are not aboard...
Pressurized flammable gas+heat+weak pipe links+spark= a flying deck...
Flammable Liquids+heat+weak pipe links+spark= learning how to use a fire extinguisher...
My only near danger experience was not paying attention to what my wife bought for the alcohol fuel once... It got a bit messy but no fires whatsoever... A wet towel and the fire was under control and extinguished momentarily...
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Well, while we're on the subject of pressurized alcohol stoves again... Is the fuel these things use the same thing as the stuff you buy for Coleman lanterns and the backpack camp stoves you pump up? Certainly my Coleman lantern (which I loaned out and never got back) never gave me any trouble. And tho I don't think I actually ever used my little backpack camp stove (got out of the camping hobby soon after acquiring it), I don't recall having any trouble getting it going, either.

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I'm still against the gas stoves... Though I may have to buy a camping stove to replace the old alcohol stove since a burner is clogged... But I can take the small propane tank off the stove and off the boat when we are not using the stove or when we are not aboard...
I dunno, ISTM a camping stove just can't quite replace a built-in stove, and it's one more bit of clutter around the place.

My wife keeps suggesting we get a propane BBQ grill to hang off the rail, or whatever, to use in place of the alcohol stove or replacing the alcohol stove. I'm thinking a BBQ grill would be nice to put on the boat for planned raft-offs and the like, but otherwise I don't want it rattling around the place.

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Pressurized flammable gas+heat+weak pipe links+spark= a flying deck...
True. If we had a propane locker outboard of the galley, like our transient slip neighbours had, the decision to convert to propane would be a non-brainer, in my view. Easy to go outside, open the locker, and turn off the gas at the source each time you're done with it. But we don't, adding such would be prohibitively expensive, we have absolutely no other place on the boat that would be safe to stash the propane supply, nor any place that could reasonably be made safe for same. So propane, in my mind, is out of the question for us.

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Well, while we're on the subject of pressurized alcohol stoves again... Is the fuel these things use the same thing as the stuff you buy for Coleman lanterns and the backpack camp stoves you pump up?
NO! You must use high quality denatured alchohol - basically ethanol with a bit of methanol added to made it undrinkable. The Origo non-pressurized stoves use the same fuel but are less sensitive to inpurities since they don't have the tiny valves and passages. You can find it any hardware store for about $10-12 per gallon.

Having used Kenyon pressurized stoves for many years and now using an Origo non-pressurized, I can't say enough about how much better the Origo is. Safer, easier to use, no flareups of flameouts, easier to control, higher heat output, etc.
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After reading all this and you still want one send me a message. I have one in storage.
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