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Really... I'M NOT KIDDING .. !!

I just took this photo less than five minutes ago on the bow of a 750k boat. "Been using it for a while"...


So what's wrong with this photo?????
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Well, I have a 31 ft boat and that anchor is a hell of a lot smaller then mine.


I am having a hard time seeing it, but the way the rode is attached looks different, then I've seen before.
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I'll give you a hint it's a Spade Anchor and...

It's supposed to look like this:
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Wrong type of anchor for the anchor weldment. It looks like it was made to hold either a CQR or Delta.
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No, wait a second.... They don't pull it far enough up so as to make room for the line they have attached and running through the eye. Unless of course that is a photographic error. Chafing like that would be a bad thing....
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Aside from the fact that the Spade appears to be bent, presumably from some prior strain upon it, it appears that what seems to be the jib downhaul is fairlead through the cat head. I'll give ya $1500 for the whole boat, as is.
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Aside from the fact that the Spade appears to be bent,
"Bent?" Look again: Only way it could get "bent" like that would be by the shank and the spade passing through different dimensions

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... it appears that what seems to be the jib downhaul is fairlead through the cat head.
I'm no expert, I readily admit, but isn't that a bit far forward for a downhaul?

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Please tell me you did tell him his spade was put together wrong.

The blade is on the shank as you indicated upside down but that's not the real issue.

There has been at lease one failure but a person who did the same thing. It stresses the welded assembly totally wrong for the design.
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Please tell me you did tell him his spade was put together wrong.

The blade is on the shank as you indicated upside down but that's not the real issue.

There has been at lease one failure but a person who did the same thing. It stresses the welded assembly totally wrong for the design.
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So here's what's wrong:

The fluke is installed on the shank UPSIDE DOWN!! This changes all the design angles, such as fluke to shank, and the total design characteristics of the anchor in general not to mention design strength..



For those not familiar with the Spade anchor it is supposed to be shaped like a "spade" shovel not a plow as it is currently installed..

Oh, and yes, of course I did explain to him that he put his anchor together up side down and he was quite horrified and said he would attend to it asap.. I also informed him of the bolt upgrade that allows you to put a cotter pin through it to prevent the nut from backing off after all he might anchor in front of me some day...


P.S. There is not one know weld fracture of a Spade that I am aware of and I am involved on just about every major sailing forum out there so I think I would have heard of it having been a Spade owner since the very early days.

The referenced failure was because the bolt backed out of the hole and the fluke and shank separated! Spade offered a bolt upgrade with a drilled hole in the end of the bolt to place a cotter pin through. It seems people were re-using the nyloc insert nuts, after disassembling their anchors, which is a big NO, NO with nylocs.... Never re-use a nyloc insert nut!!
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I don't think that security line is heavy enough to keep the anchor secured to the bow. And purple lines on the foredeck, really, that's just SO declassé, the Style Police obviously must be called out in force!
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