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Soft Deck on a shark

Looking at buying a Shark 24, but I have a question on how to repair a soft foredeck. When inside the boat, you can see areas where the deck is thin, almost like you can see light through it. There does not appear to be a wooden core on the boat, but when I push on the foredeck in the thin areas, they are really soft. Can I simply glass on a couple of layers of fiberglass on the underside of the deck to improve the strength? If this will not work, anyone have any ideas/experience in this area?
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What would work better is to glass in some foam, hose or wooden stringers along the underside of the deck there. That would give it a lot more rigidity. It is pretty much the same as glassing the area but before you put the glass down, you epoxy a long piece of 1.5" x 1.5" or so wood/foam/hose to the underside of the deck and then put the glass down over that. It will effectively create a mini "box beam" at each stringer piece—adding a lot of rigidity to the structure. As a bonus, if you use hose for the core of the stringer, you can turn the stringers into wiring conduits.
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I have no expertise to share with you about deck repair, but the Shark is a great boat, and there are many for sale. Have you considered the ones here?
http://www.shark24
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I have no expertise to share with you about deck repair, but the Shark is a great boat, and there are many for sale. Have you considered the ones here?
http://www.shark24
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I am looking around for one that needs work, but pricing is strange. One in good shape goes for around 5-6 thousand, but the ones in disrepair I am finding are still around 5 thousand, which makes no sense. I figure I will make a fair offer on one of the ones that need a rebuild and see what the response is. Weird, people let the boats sit and rot, yet when they get a chance to unload them, they price them in such a way that the boats are guaranteed to sit in the yards and rot forever.

Djodenda, have you seen the sharks at the Toronto Sail and Paddle club? I saw they are selling 3 of them off, but I am up in Montreal, so not really worth buying one and shipping it.
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I am looking around for one that needs work, but pricing is strange. One in good shape goes for around 5-6 thousand, but the ones in disrepair I am finding are still around 5 thousand, which makes no sense. I figure I will make a fair offer on one of the ones that need a rebuild and see what the response is. Weird, people let the boats sit and rot, yet when they get a chance to unload them, they price them in such a way that the boats are guaranteed to sit in the yards and rot forever.

Djodenda, have you seen the sharks at the Toronto Sail and Paddle club? I saw they are selling 3 of them off, but I am up in Montreal, so not really worth buying one and shipping it.
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SharkBytes | Shark Sailing | Shark One Design | Shark Sailboat | Canadian Shark Class Association | International Shark Class Association is where you want to go. You are correct that there is no core in the deck, with the exception of the cockpit floor. These are notorious for getting soft because sharks were originally equipped with boom crutches. I'm told the really old ones have weak coach house roofs (might be an incorrect term: I'm new to boats, but I'm sure you know what I mean). Toronto Sharks tend to be more expensive, even if they need some work. I bought #337 two years ago. I think that the deal you are looking for is out there, if you are patient. Sorry for the rambling but I'm in a rush. Good luck on your search and let me know if I can be of any more help.
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Sorry about the bum link... Farmboy has the good one..

I wonder if our old one is available again (#106)... I will check and get back to you. I think it is in Michigan, which probably isn't helpful...

I ran across an abandoned one here in Washington a couple of years ago. Sad.

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if looking for a make work boat find one with good sails. they are expensive to replace if they are old

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Sharks are great boats, I love mine. I recommend fixing the deck from below too, although I have never see it done on a Shark.
The deck repair as I understand, if you are comfortable with the work, shouldn't be too bad if all else is good with the boat. Is the rigging ok? sails? Bottom? What type of main sheet system? a good traveller system is nice to have. In Canada I have seen prices from $3000 to $10000.
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I am looking around for one that needs work, but pricing is strange. One in good shape goes for around 5-6 thousand, but the ones in disrepair I am finding are still around 5 thousand, which makes no sense. ....

Djodenda, have you seen the sharks at the Toronto Sail and Paddle club? I saw they are selling 3 of them off, but I am up in Montreal, so not really worth buying one and shipping it.
I think that what has happened in the Canadian market is that some people are still pricing their boats on what the market was like when the dollar was 70 cents. Being able to buy in the US has driven the market in Canada way down. Ask me how I know - I just sold a Niagara 35 and got filled on it. Fortunately I made out fine overall since I bought a boat in the US.

In today's market a boat needing work should be around $3000 or so I think.

If you were to buy in Toronto it is pretty easy to take it to Montreal via Lake Ontario and the St Lawrence. Would take about a week at a slow but steady pace. You would still have to get the cradle home or get a new one made.
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