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PK, Great frame!!

For the horizontal pipes that are about 3 feet above the deck, did you have to do anything special to have them follow the curve of the rail? (Or did they have enough flexibility that you could curve them easily?)

Also, maybe I missed it, what did you cover it with? Was it somehting home grown or did you have a professional build you a tarp?
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1500 dollar shrink wrap


I see yard people building many frames to support the shrink wrap this has to be a huge cost compared to giving them a boat ready to warp
Not much cost really. Use the boom across the center of the boat, run a line down from the gooseneck to the bow pulpit as a ridge line and run a line down from the end of the boom to the stern as another ridgeline. No need for a big frame. If the boat is big, sometimes a vertical pole or two is used up at the bow for supporting the forward ridgeline. More line is ran from the ridgeline to the rails. All this line is cheap non stretch.
For me, I ran my whisker pole from the mast to the bow pulpit so I have a pole over 3/4 of the boat.

Frames are needed for tarps that weigh much more than shrinkwrap. As long as the slope is good, snow will not build up, weighing down the cover. Shrinkwrap is more slick than tarps and sheds the snow easier.

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I purchased a Fairclough cover last year and Fairclough installed it the first time. Because of the cost of having them put it up and take it down I opted to do it myself with the help of a friend. I'll be putting it back on next week. As you know having had one, the frame is a piece of cake to put up. But the cover on a 49 foot boat is unbelievably heavy even in two parts and I'm not getting any younger. I think next year I'll pay Fairclough.
I do have a different take on the cover. I believe that it really takes care of the investment in the boat. When I go to sell the boat, the buyers will appreciate that investment and that I cared for the boat properly. Plus they get a really nice cover with the boat. I have no illusions about getting my 6,500.00 back when I sell but I believe that the cover is a definite a check in the plus column when a buyer compares it to another prospective boat.
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Sorry, what I meant to ask was how is the superball used in relation to the tarp cover (my fault, poorly worded question). Can anyone describe or provide pictures? Thanks for your help.
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....But the cover on a 49 foot boat is unbelievably heavy even in two parts...
Good gravy! Ours is in 4 parts and they are heavy enough!
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wrap the tarp around the superball...then tie the rope or bungie cord around the tarp, trapping the superball in the tarp. This allows you to create tie off point anywhere along the tarp that will spread the load out fairly evenly and have a low likelihood of tearing out, unlike the POS grommets they normally come with.
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Last winter I was quoted $1500 for shrinking. Ended up building one with electrical conduit and HD white tarps. 20x30 over the bow and wrapped around the mast, 20x40 over the (supported) boom/bimini structure. meeting edges were rolled and stiched with 4in cable ties and reinforced with Tyvec tape. Foam pipe insulation was used over all hard points and along the bottom of the tarp to keep the grommets away. Blue plastic tarp repair grommets were found to be very useful as they do not pull out. The Tyvec tape was the only thing that stayed stuck below -20C. My one regret was not enough pitch and had to clear off the snow a few times. Both tarps and all seams survived the winter, was well ventilated and cost about $400.
New location has me shrink wrapped at $850 disposal/recycling incl. and no maintenance, easy choice.
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You have to have real good framing here as with the current weather we allways get WET heavy snow

It never lasts long but is does not slide that well and seems to build a lot of weight compare to more normal snow
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PK, Great frame!!

For the horizontal pipes that are about 3 feet above the deck, did you have to do anything special to have them follow the curve of the rail? (Or did they have enough flexibility that you could curve them easily?)

Also, maybe I missed it, what did you cover it with? Was it something home grown or did you have a professional build you a tarp?
Hi Bene505,

Nothing special, they just bent with the curve of the boat. They don't even need to be so high off of the deck, I purposefully made the vertical legs fairly tall since I planned on working underneath and wanted the room. The vertical legs are capped with a "t" fitting that rests on the deck and can be seen here:




For the tarp, I just bought the cheapest 20x40 foot tarp I could find. Since boat is in my yard I figured I'd keep an eye on it for replacement if needed. It did fine.

When we painted the boat this spring, I added legs to each "bent" to get it off the deck, and covered the whole thing with translucent plastic. It's wobbly as heck, every other leg is tied back to trees with twine. I was hoping it would just get us through the painting, but it's still gong strong 7 months later. It sways a little with the wind, but has never failed.


Soon I'll take the legs off so each bent rests on the deck again for the winter cover.

I didn't glue anything since I wanted to be able to take it all apart for easy summer storage, and also was able to check on it as I worked throughout the winter. I once had a vertical center post fall down, but never anything catastrophic. If I were to leave it for a long time, I might clue some of the fittings, but leave some dry to make disassembly easy.
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Hi JohnRPolard,
did you mention where you had your canvas cover made? It looks great. I just got a quote from Fairclough and was a little shocked at the price, plus I'm not too keen on the complex structure. Any tips?
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