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Please use extreme caution when dealing with these guys! The old adage "you get what you pay for" can be very true with canvas products!

Buyer Beware "The Canvas Store" (LINK)

Buyer Beware Part 2 "The Canvas Store" (LINK)


An this (LINK)

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Does anybody know if Tim from detroit ever collected his money? The threads are pretty old and are closed...
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What about one of those canvas garage like things get one rv size 2-car it could fit a good size boat probably and youll have room to work on the hull and up on deck....just a thought
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Not really workable. Most of those aren't high enough to fit a boat underneath. A boat up on stands is often close to 12' high or so. Also, many aren't long enough to fit over a boat, since most are less than 20' long, and most boats would be longer than that.
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What about one of those canvas garage like things get one rv size 2-car it could fit a good size boat probably and youll have room to work on the hull and up on deck....just a thought
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OK I bought about 400 feet of PVC pipe and some of those blue tarps (40x30, 20x30, some smaller ones too). I bought connectors of all shapes and sizes, including many 45 degree connectors, since I'm planning a special design. The goal is a reusable structure an inexpensive tarps that get replaced every year. Second goal is to have an inner, secondary cover over a few haches that I'll leave open all winter for ventilation.

If anyone wants to enjoy a large-scale tinker-toy project in the next few weeks, let me know.
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You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
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Yes, I plan to take pictures.

I have to wait until the boat is on the hard first. Meanwhile, I plan to take all the little peices and put them on the boat, so I don't have to haul them up later. The 10 foot pipes I'll do once she's pulled. There's no point trying to get them all to the far end of a long dock with a small dock cart. After she's pulled, I'll just lean them up against the hull and grab them from above.

Oh and I saved the 24 empty one-gallon antifreeze containers for use as weights once they are filled with water.

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I cheated in making the framework for my boat. The Telstar 28 has a mast raising system that lowers the mast and leaves it sitting about a foot above the deck. I built plywood beams that sit on the mast and then used 2x4's to connect the tops of the vertical beams as a ridgepole. Then I threw a big tarp over the whole thing. There are three pairs of ratchet straps acting as guys to hold the ridgepole on center.
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I finally got some pix of our winter cover from the Canvas Store. Enjoy/criticize, whatever your preference.

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I wrote back in October to say I too was pleased with The Canvas Store cover. Price was reasonable at $3000 for a 44'. It comes down to the caprail and attaches securely to the stanchions. Great for in water storage as you don't have to run lines under the hull, though I do when it's on the hard.

However for those still looking for a cover at this late date, I recently met Carl Pellegrini of seacanvas who was at my marina. There are two of his covers on boats and he was building two more. High quality and they cost about 3.5K for a 45'.

While it's similar to The Canvas Store cover Carl takes meticulous measurements to get a good fit the first time.
He's located in New Jersey. No financial connections.

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I just got through building a similar frame out of PVC about a week ago. I used three way Y's for the peak so that I had a vertical to support the load as well as rafters to the side. I then put a T on the stem of the Y at right angles and attached a ridge pole between the uprights. I solved the problem of diagonal bracing by using four guy ropes going back down to the stantion bases from the top of each frame. The frames were 3-4 feet apart. I used heavier tarps though, the blue ones are cheaper, but they usually shred in a couple of seasons. I was very pleased with the result, with the dodger down you can move around on the deck quite easily, and all hatches etc. are easy to get to. I uploaded a photo to my gallery in case you would like to take a look. Good luck, and don't breath the fumes from the PVC cement!

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Nice construction you've done. How is it working out?

I'm planning on 1.5 inch PVC for the ridge pole, then 1" PCV coming down from it every 5 feet. They connect using a T that is 1.5 inches at the ends and 1" at the middle.

I'm also thinking about building-in an overhang, king of like the number "4", wjere the slanted part of the 4 keeps slanting up to the ridge pole. This is to keep the rain off the deck and allow ventilation.

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