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Cabin sole

I redid my cabin sole last winter, which came out brilliant. However, already this year, I have areas where the urethane is lifting up and peeling. Some have suggested that this may be from dampness in the bilge. Others believe that I probably just didn't do as thorough a cleaning job in the areas peeling.

I would like to see what others think before I do this job again this fall.

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Sorry, but this is most likely due to insufficient preparation in the first place.

You'll probably need to sand it out again before attempting a redo. I'd highly recommend "Ultimate Sole" as the product of choice for this job.. good gloss and not too slippery underfoot even when wet.
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My question is whether you sealed the edges and bottoms, if not you should do so, moisture getting iunder the finish from below is a prime cause for discoloration. Use epoxy, I did my new floor with polyurethane and it wasn't up to the task, after cleaning some first year staining (ugh!), I susequently recoated the undersides with epoxy.
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If the sole is wood, you really need to seal the entire piece of wood, that includes the bottom and sides... otherwise anything you put on it as a finish will lift off as moisture migrates through the wood. As SF said, epoxy is a good choice for sealing the bottom and sides... and even the top...and then you can varnish/paint over the epoxy.
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I had problems with the epoxy I used on my new floorboards going "milky". Moisture trapped in the wood apparently does this; make sure the wood is well dried before applying any epoxy coating. I have to sand off the milky coat and re-apply it this winter. This time I'm going to avoid using our damp basement workroom.
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If the sole is wood, you really need to seal the entire piece of wood, that includes the bottom and sides... otherwise anything you put on it as a finish will lift off as moisture migrates through the wood. As SF said, epoxy is a good choice for sealing the bottom and sides... and even the top...and then you can varnish/paint over the epoxy.
"If the sole is wood..." Did ya really think he would be putting urethane on fiberglass??????
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If it were you, I would not be surprised you were doing it... however, it could be a veneer over fiberglass.

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"If the sole is wood..." Did ya really think he would be putting urethane on fiberglass??????
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Sand it down with 200 grit. Seal the bottom and edges...epoxy is best. Then do the top with Ultimate Sole. Everone loves the stuff. Read about it here:
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I would agree that prep was probably the issue. I also used Ultimate sole a couple of years ago. worked well.

I have NOT looked at the link that Cam linked. IIRC the instructions I got said to do two coats with out sanding in between them............SAND between coats! Otherwise, with three different floor boards and attempts, I could NOT get coat two to be smooth, unless I did a lite 400 grit wet sand between the applied two coats.

Others may have different results, but that is my experience with it. I am recommending it none the less, as it has held up very nicely over two summers of use etc.

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FWIW...unlike Marty I did no sanding between coats and had great results. If you DO intend to sand between coats you need to wait 24-36 hours. Otherwise, just wipe it down with a tack cloth and use a good FOAM brush and you should get great results.
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