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Almost all foils have two grooves. This is more likely for sail changes than double headsails, I would guess.
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You can change your headsail with a furler just as you can with a hank on.
Pull the genny down from the foil and hoist your roller furling storm sail!
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The Gale Sail from ATN is one alternative. Or you can setup a solent stay, which, unlike a normal inner forestay, generally doesn't require the use of running backstays.

BTW, converting a hanked on sail may or may not be worthwhile, as some hanked on sails are cut wrong to fit a furling unit and will have poor shape because of that.
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Have a local sailmaker remove the hanks and sew on a luff tape. The luff tape fits in the groove on the furling unit's foil and is hoisted that way.
The problem that I have with this is that by the time you decide or know that you need to hoist storm sails, you probably already have three reefs in the main and 50% of the genoa furled away.

In order to hoist the storm jib on the furler, you first have to take the genoa down which means you have to completely unfurl it into a blasting wind, in a non-too-friendly sea, fold it or at best, open the forehatch with seawater swirling (read breaking) over the deck to stuff the sail down below . . . . you get the picture?

Not for me thanks - I'll go with the inner forestay. The main advantage of this is that you can have the storm sail on deck in a launching bag, hanked on, sheets connected, ready to deploy at any time. Dump the main, furl away the genoa, hoist the storm jib and in 60 seconds you're ready for anything.
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Andre..I agree...I will be rigging just like you describe... no way would I have wanted my furling drums line to part yesterday or voluntarily unfurled it to yank it down..mine also has two luff grooves also but I just figured it was for as mentioned above twin Genoas running wing on wing or an extra one incase one groove got messed up somehow.
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Almost all foils have two grooves. This is more likely for sail changes than double headsails, I would guess.
Sail changes on a cruising boat don't need two grooves. Take one down, put the other up. Yes you can hoist before dropping but why would you? It's not as if you're against the clock. The most rushed choices you will make cruising is "Should we tack? Nah, let's tack tomorrow"

No, I reckon the second groove is more about twin headsails than sail changes. If you're seriously racing and need to do sail changes, you're probably using a racing foil and not a furler anyway.

There are some sailors who have two identical sails cut that are on the furler together, using both tracks. When sailing on the wind, one lies inside the other. When running downwind, gull them. When furling, furl them together. Sounds like a decent choice.
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I have a yankee cut jib on a Profurl, and a hanked-on staysail, and an assy. spinnaker I rig to a tack downhaul off the bowsprit.

I am going to get a lighter, larger genoa for the furler (because I need a light air alternative and the assy. isn't always the best choice), and the hanked-on staysail will be replaced with something bigger, but with reef points.

I like the furling foresail, but I am quite conscious of losing some pointing ability not only with it, but with the cutter rig in general. I like the cutter rig for its flexibility and options in a blow (I've run under staysail alone, and it was quite interesting to see something the size of a 33 footer's No. 3 driving 15 tons at seven knots...).

But everything has its price, and mine means more tacks to get to a point in the eye of the wind.
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If you are down to a triple reefed main and still have a 150 on your furler half rolled or not then you have made some bad decisions.

When it is obvious there is bad weather closing in haul he genoa down and then put up a smaller headsail. It can be furling or not.

Twin foils are useful when changing sails because you can hoist one inside the other and then haul down the second sail. Is a common technique in racing and the twin foil simply equips a boat that way in the event it ever decides to do a sail change in this manner.

Our boat has a roller furl dacron #1 as well as a full inventory of racing sails. It has two genoa halyards and twin foil.

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When hoisting the smaller sail on the second foil with the genoa already up, how do you rig your sheets?
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When hoisting the smaller sail on the second foil with the genoa already up, how do you rig your sheets?
Ideally, you'll have a changing line and you can attach that to the sail that's being hoisted. Alternatively, you can use the lazy sheet of the hoisted sail and, when the first sail is down, remove the other sheet and attach that as the new sail's lazy sheet.
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