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I'm looking to get a 33# claw anchor ...
Some reason, in particular, you've settled on a claw anchor? I ask because it would seem, from what I've read, that the Rocna, Spade and Delta anchors generally hold the best in most bottoms, drag the least, and reset the most dependably.

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WOW!!! I've never heard of even the knock-offs breaking. It looks rusted in the middle, although you would never know that by the appearance of the exterior.

I have used the 33lb. Horizon Claw (which is supposedly guaranteed for life against breaking) as my normal, everyday anchor for the last few years. It holds well in most bottoms most of the time but lately has been letting me down, usually in very hard bottoms where it just won't bite in.

If you are anchoring in soft bottoms in normal conditions a $100 Claw is hard to beat. In hard bottoms I'd bump it up to a rocna or manson, which is what I'll be replacing my bruce with for next season.


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Then there is the Manson Ray claw for $599 which is forged. (/QUOTE]

Are you sure of that??

For me it is CAST!..............
That's what it said in the West Marine catalog write ups, and it was confirmed to me by a salesman at Bacon's (or was it Fawcett's?) here in Annapolis.
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Personally, I wouldn't go with a claw style anchor, as they are relatively low on the holding power they can generate and can have problems re-setting if they pull out.

I certainly wouldn't go with a copy of a Bruce either, but the originals are no longer being made.

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Personally, I wouldn't go with a claw style anchor, as they are relatively low on the holding power they can generate and can have problems re-setting if they pull out.

I certainly wouldn't go with a copy of a Bruce either, but the originals are no longer being made.
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I think a lot depends on where the anchor will be used. A properly-sized claw anchor coupled with a 30 foot stretch of chain will give outstanding holding and resetting in the thick, easily penetrated, bottom mud that is ubiquitous here on the Chesapeake. We have two plows on our rollers (CQR and Delta) -- I would trade the Delta in a heartbeat for a Bruce.

As for the photo of the broken claw anchor. Absent any hard info about the incident, my guess is that the anchor did not break while in use. More likely, it was damaged in transit/shipping or somehow otherwise on land. It seems much less likely that someone went diving for the other piece after hauling up the shank. But it will be interesting to hear a definitive account of the circumstances, should one be forthcoming.


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Its interesting that one of the tests show that the claw did not even set...... reeeeelly??? Are they trying to tell me that a Bruce anchor will not set? Also in the PS test they used anchors of different weights.... ie a Bruce 22lb versus a Wasi 58lb.....what gives?

The tests must be flawed. Many sailors swear by the Bruce.....and have used them in very "testing" conditions.

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Some reason, in particular, you've settled on a claw anchor? I ask because it would seem, from what I've read, that the Rocna, Spade and Delta anchors generally hold the best in most bottoms, drag the least, and reset the most dependably.

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Gburton...that test result is not unusual...I think that the Bruce has been consistently ranked low on most of the tests done by independent organizations. That said...you have the practical experience of folks like Beth Leonard and Evans Starzinger who trust their lives to the quality and holding of the Bruce in harsher anchor conditions than you or I will probably ever consider. Maybe the tests don't tell the whole story.

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Yeah - thats what I'm getting at Cam. These tests are very subjective, and I think, flawed.

Take the Northill anchor for example - if you read the Griffiths book they swear by these anchors but they are not even mentioned these days. I will grant that the Northill is for rocky conditions and I think the Bruce is better suited to those conditions as well so these tests do not show the whole picture.

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Gburton...that test result is not unusual...I think that the Bruce has been consistently ranked low on most of the tests done by independent organizations. That said...you have the practical experience of folks like Beth Leonard and Evans Starzinger who trust their lives to the quality and holding of the Bruce in harsher anchor conditions than you or I will probably ever consider. Maybe the tests don't tell the whole story.
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Maybe the tests don't tell the whole story.
That's certainly the way I see it with 6 years on a 12,000 lb. C320 held by a 33 lb. Bruce-Bruce setting first time every time and never a drag even when under-scoped with shifting winds.
Now after finishing my 3rd year with a 33lb. Lewmar-Bruce on my 18,000 lb. NC with a lot more windage it's same old story of 100% performance for me even when the wind and waves have kept me awake most of the night. I keep telling myself every year I should move up to a 44 lb for a better match.... but maybe I'll never bother.

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