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You should consider that 90% of the time, sailors are anchoring with winds lower than 20 knots, sometime gusting to 30.

Within these conditions, fortunately (nearly) all anchors are good, and CQR owners, Bruce owners, are all satisfied.

Some (or many) manufacturers suggest the size of their anchors for winds up to 30 knots!..

Anchoring in “extreme” conditions is another game: hard sand like “concrete” of the Med, gravel, weed like the “cachiyuyo” we have on the “far South” - Nasty squalls “williwaws”.. In these conditions, nearly ALL anchors from the previous century (Danforth – CQR – Bruce) have difficulties for setting and are frequently dragging..

As a manufacturer of anchors, I’m not allowed on this forum to give freely my opinion, but I’m also writing on many others “more open” forums.
Actually, we more than welcome your opinion... we just don't welcome you or any other manufacturer pushing their own product....that's called advertising, and if you want to do that...pay for it.

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Selecting oversized anchors should be one of the solutions, but extra weight on the bow is a BAD solution. Modern anchors give a much higher holding for a much lower weight..
I’m very surprised to read comments like the one of “senior member” GBurton: “Interesting that the Rocna site says nothing about rocks.... »

No one experienced sailor will compare anchors in Rock, either your anchor will wedge itself between two rocks and you will not be able to recover it (and quite often this is the chain itself which will be bloked between rocks).. or the anchor will not set at all..
It depends on whether GBurton was talking about rocky conditions or solid rock... I've anchored in areas where the mud had large rocks in it... not too difficult to find such conditions given that most of Cape Cod and Buzzards Bay are formed from the glacier tailings.

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Fisherman anchors ? Keep them for your backyard, any lump of metal wedged between two rocks will be as efficient. Weight for weight, compared to the modern anchors, the « fisherman » is just RIDICULOUS »..

Keep talking and comparing “previous century” anchors.. the world in moving and “new generation” anchors give more security to “open minded” sailors.

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As a manufacturer of anchors, I’m not allowed on this forum to give freely my opinion, but I’m also writing on many others “more open” forums.
I suspect it's more likely that you're not allowed to advertise, you're required to be respectful of your competition (even if they're lower-cost "clones") and you must always disclose that you're an anchor manufacturer/representative when the subject is anchors, so readers can take that into account. Otherwise I'm pretty certain your comments are welcome--particularly if you have a really bitchin' new design that results in an anchor that isn't overly bulky, doesn't weigh a ton, sets quickly and easily in any bottom, holds like it was bedded in concrete, resets quickly and positively on wind/tide/current shifts, doesn't drag, is easy to release, doesn't haul a half-a-ton of muddy bottom up with it, and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

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So which anchor do you recommend anyway? You might want to change your avatar

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You should consider that 90% of the time, sailors are anchoring with winds lower than 20 knots, sometime gusting to 30.

Within these conditions, fortunately (nearly) all anchors are good, and CQR owners, Bruce owners, are all satisfied.

Some (or many) manufacturers suggest the size of their anchors for winds up to 30 knots!..

Anchoring in “extreme” conditions is another game: hard sand like “concrete” of the Med, gravel, weed like the “cachiyuyo” we have on the “far South” - Nasty squalls “williwaws”.. In these conditions, nearly ALL anchors from the previous century (Danforth – CQR – Bruce) have difficulties for setting and are frequently dragging..

As a manufacturer of anchors, I’m not allowed on this forum to give freely my opinion, but I’m also writing on many others “more open” forums.

Selecting oversized anchors should be one of the solutions, but extra weight on the bow is a BAD solution. Modern anchors give a much higher holding for a much lower weight..
I’m very surprised to read comments like the one of “senior member” GBurton: “Interesting that the Rocna site says nothing about rocks.... »

No one experienced sailor will compare anchors in Rock, either your anchor will wedge itself between two rocks and you will not be able to recover it (and quite often this is the chain itself which will be bloked between rocks).. or the anchor will not set at all..

Fisherman anchors ? Keep them for your backyard, any lump of metal wedged between two rocks will be as efficient. Weight for weight, compared to the modern anchors, the « fisherman » is just RIDICULOUS »..

Keep talking and comparing “previous century” anchors.. the world in moving and “new generation” anchors give more security to “open minded” sailors.
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GBurton...he recommends his OWN. He is not allowed to do that here unless he does it in a paid for ad. He has been warned several times. His competitor is sitting on the sidelines right now for similar activity.

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That's a good one. It took me a minute, but I got it.


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Got it Cam - which one is that?

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GBurton...he recommends his OWN. He is not allowed to do that here unless he does it in a paid for ad. He has been warned several times. His competitor is sitting on the sidelines right now for similar activity.
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Got it Cam - which one is that?
LOL!

Google is your friend, GBurton. Try this: Another Funny-Lookin' Anchor.

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GBurton...he recommends his OWN. He is not allowed to do that here unless he does it in a paid for ad. He has been warned several times. His competitor is sitting on the sidelines right now for similar activity.
Y'know, Cam, this is SailNet's house, and I realize I'm only a guest, but I gotta tell ya: I'm pretty sure this is the only web forum in which I participate that actively discourages manufactures' reps from participating. Seems kind of counter-productive - just to maybe make a buck or two off somebody for possibly a short while.

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Aaah ....ok thanks. Never heard of it

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Google is your friend, GBurton. Try this: Another Funny-Lookin' Anchor.

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