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Knotty...I think he has one of those old foils OVER his wire headstay that had two luff grooves so you could make easy sail changes on the fly. I could be wrong but that is what it sounds like to me.
These were a bit like the current harken carbo foils except with opposing luff grooves and the wire in the middle.
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Knotty...I think he has one of those old foils OVER his wire headstay that had two luff grooves so you could make easy sail changes on the fly. I could be wrong but that is what it sounds like to me.
These were a bit like the current harken carbo foils except with opposing luff grooves and the wire in the middle.

Cam, you are probably right but until we see a picture of the darn thing we are all just guessing.
It could be a regular furler converted for racing. IE the drum has been removed.
It could be a Tuff Luff but as mentioned that is plastic.
It could be a Stearns or Streamstay but that's not too likely because it's not so easy to get the drums off of those.
A photo would problably answer the question.

More than likely, it's just a furler minus the drum.


edit; Stearns and Streamstays are not split drums.

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Yeah, did a little research and Streamstay is a furler - with integral drum so probably not that. We had a boat in a local race fleet with a "racing" foil with fore-and-aft grooves so I suspect it's one of those - maybe Hyde produced such a thing at one point, don't know.

A picture would solve that conundrum.. but really, he's looking at a new replacement, most likely, regardless of what it "was".
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Forestay picture

Steve;

My apologies for any frustration I've caused and for my in ability to adequately name or describe the type of forestay that has been damaged. I tried to send you a private e-mail but apparently I can not. I can only send the to staff, whoever they are. Also to post image or URL I must have a post count of 10 so again no luck So here is the URL without the normal formating "boatottawa.ca/BPSS/photos/forestay.jpg" is the URL of the best image I have. You can clearly see the forestay has been bent where it is tied to the mast. It is solid metal there is no wire core etc.

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Steve;

My apologies for any frustration I've caused and for my in ability to adequately name or describe the type of forestay that has been damaged. I tried to send you a private e-mail but apparently I can not. I can only send the to staff, whoever they are. Also to post image or URL I must have a post count of 10 so again no luck So here is the URL without the normal formating "boatottawa.ca/BPSS/photos/forestay.jpg" is the URL of the best image I have. You can clearly see the forestay has been bent where it is tied to the mast. It is solid metal there is no wire core etc.

Thank you your time. Cheers;

I can't seem to make that work. Maybe SD would be so kind as to figure out how to get the photo and then post it here.
How bout it Dog?

You don't need to apologize. It's just that without a picture it is very difficult, if not impossible to give you good info.
BTW, just go to the off topic forum and make a bunch of silly posts in any one of the many silly threads there. Just not the "Rays are for Real" thread. Nothing silly about that one.

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Here's the photo. Hard to see anything, since the end of the foil isn't visible...just the bent center section.

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Post a photo with the end of the foil in it... that is the most important aspect of this..so we can figure out if it is a furler foil over a wire forestay or not.

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You're right SD. A picture of either end will solve the mystery. However, I am 90% sure it's a Hyde Stream Stay.
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You're right SD. A picture of either end will solve the mystery. However, I am 90% sure it's a Hyde Stream Stay.
Wow - big picture!

Steve - do you know if Hyde made a non furling -, ie straight foil - "streamstay"? This is what I recall seeing on a friends boat.. no forestay inside it.
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Wow - big picture!

Steve - do you know if Hyde made a non furling -, ie straight foil - "streamstay"? This is what I recall seeing on a friends boat.. no forestay inside it.

You're right, really big picture.

I don't recall every seeing a Streamstay that wasn't designed to be a furler.
There is no reason that someone couldn't have removed the drum and swivel and used it as a simple headstay foil though.
Hyde did make a more traditional furler that was installed over a wire but they didn't really sell too many of them.
Most of them are of the solid variety.
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More photos

Thank you for staying with this thread. I've put three more photo's on a web server and the server and directory is "boatottawa.ca/Forestay/" One photo labeled "FootA.jpg" is a picture of the foot of the forestay. It is not furling to the best of my knowledge. The other two photos are of the sail guide. One is called "guideA.jpg" and the other is called guidelogoA.jpg which shows a logo. The top of the forestay looks very much like the foot. There are no other labels or identifying part numbers anywhere on the forestay that I can find. To view the photos just combine the server/directory and the photo name together in the address bar of you browser. These are smaller photos. I hope they can help identify a suitable replacement.

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