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rigging and mast

I have a 52 foot sail boat, but no mast. I do have some sails:

32' by 27' by 16' (corner of 16 and 32 is labeled "bottom foot")

37' by 41' by 10.5' (jib?)

48' by 48' by 24 (main sail?)

Can someone help me figure out what kind of rigging I can do with that and how tall my main mast needs to be.
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What you need to do is find a sister ship and get their dimensions. If No sister, then find the designer and get the spec's from him. Is it a sloop, cutter, ketch, fractional, tall or gaff head rig? And so on!

One has to know many details about a boat before trying to rig it. How do you know that you even have the right sails?
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It would really help if you said WHAT KIND OF SAILBOAT YOU HAD—MAKE, MODEL, RIG TYPE, ETC.

Only an idiot would expect anyone to be able to say anything about the rig with the bare minimum of information you've given.

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What you need to do is find a sister ship and get their dimensions. If No sister, then find the designer and get the spec's from him. Is it a sloop, cutter, ketch, fractional, tall or gaff head rig? And so on!

One has to know many details about a boat before trying to rig it. How do you know that you even have the right sails?
I knew there's more to it. There is no sister ship. It's a one of a kind custom built. I am trying to find the builder, but that was about 35 years ago. I might not be that lucky.

I have no idea if the sails I have are the right ones. It's just what I have, what came with the boat. Right now I am just wondering what kind of rigging is possible or suggested for that size of boat. Lots of reading to do. I was hoping for a short-cut, but no such luck, huh?
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Post a few song things in the song thread in the off-topic forum - that'll allow you to get a post count to 10. Then post a picture of the boat. It would be more than helpful. Also, you may be able to find out what the boat was by seeing if there is a US Documentation number hidden somewhere on your boat and doing a look-up on that. Lastly, somewhere on the stern there should be a metal hull id plate that you maybe able to get info off of.
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It would really help if you said WHAT KIND OF SAILBOAT YOU HAD—MAKE, MODEL, RIG TYPE, ETC.

Only an idiot would expect anyone to be able to say anything about the rig with the bare minimum of information you've given.

Please read the post in my signature for the sake of everyone on this forum.
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If it is a custom boat and you have no mast, you're probably going to have to consult with a rigger or naval architect to find out what would be recommended for the boat, given its ballast ratio, hull form and other specifications. If the boat was sloop or cutter rigged—which I find a bit unlikely, since most older boats that size were either ketch, yawl or schooner rigged—it is going to have a pretty massive stick.

Are you sure it was a sloop or cutter rig? Are there multiple mast steps or partners through the deck or just the one?
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As a basic rule to answer your question, on a sloop rig the mast height will be the length on deck plus 10%. This will vary as to if there will be a stay-sail or if the rig will be a ketch or schooner. If there is a bow pulpit or sprit then this would indicate a stay-sail or cutter rig. The mast could be higher if the draft is deeper to be in line with the righting moment. Some people call this "a tall rig". Hope this was of help.
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If the boat has sails, it is pretty likely it once had a mast(s) and rigging or at least a plan for a mast(s). What kind of boat do you have? The more information you can give us the better answer you are going to get. How much does she weight? Beam? Where was she built and by whom? Type of keel? What s she made of? Draft?

If you can help fill in some of the blanks, I'm sure someone around here will at least be able to point you in the right direction. You gotta help us, help you.
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I have a 52 foot sail boat, but no mast. I do have some sails:

32' by 27' by 16' (corner of 16 and 32 is labeled "bottom foot")

37' by 41' by 10.5' (jib?)

48' by 48' by 24 (main sail?)

Can someone help me figure out what kind of rigging I can do with that and how tall my main mast needs to be.
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You big moron. You idiot. How can you come on here and waste our time posting something like this?
What were you thinking?

Do you realize how much time you have taken that I could have been spending in the A$$ full of Crap thread? Or one of the many worthy Ignore threads? You obviously don't realize how valuable our time is.
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