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post #541 of 577 Old 09-01-2010
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Hello Ken, I'm a newbie also and know very little about sailing. On some weekends I jump down from central MS to North Shore to work on a sailboat just bought.The boat is a 1978 Creekmore 34 and I've been able to find some history.
Hull serial numbers are sometimes on plate inside cabin, but not on my boat. I found this information on paperwork that came with boat. The engine also has a serial number that can possible be run by manufacturer with tidbits of information. Also found more info on internet from article in Sail Magazine with pictures where original owner with Lee Creekmore was custom laying hull.
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Well, I took my boat to a buddies house who has a boat hoist so we could inspect the keel and it's related hardware. I had images of the keel falling off somewhere on Georgian Bay, so an inspection was warranted.

Here is the boat on the hoist






The keel deployed.




Here is a view of her "privates" Always hidden from view under normal circumstances. I feel like a bit of a pervert just looking.


Cable disconnected from winch so we could lower if further


1/16" SS cable. It has a crimp fitting holding things together. It looked in good shape actually


Front pivot pin cover off and pin removed


Not bad for almost 40 years of wear. It's a very hard foam core and lead encapsulated in glass. It weighs about 100 lbs. Somehow, it has stayed in one piece. Some of these boats have been known to have swollen keels that don't come out of the slot anymore. Swollen by being water logged and frozen/split open I guess.


This doesn't look that great, but no time to fix, and it's lasted this long so it's going back in this way. I am pretty sure it looked like this when new.


Clean up


New cable 1/8" instead of the original 1/16".






I think the old cable had broken at the winch at one point, and then shortened and reattached to the winch. The new cable allows the keel to drop another 4 inches or so.


Now I can sail with peace of mind. I had visions of frayed cables and worn keel pin/holes.

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It is nice to have access to a private lift. That saved you a boat buck or two right there.
I'd call that a swing keel or a center board as a keel is usually thought of as the lowest point of the hull that is naturally fixed to the hull. Some are cantilevered as well.
I'd also think about grinding out and re-sealing the top of your board above the pivot hole where it shows damage. You are lucky your swing keel/center board has not swelled as this damaged area clearly is below the water line and would allow water to intrude into the core.
Replacing the wire rope pendant was an important job to do though. The extra 4" of deployed center board may be useful, or it may not. Sometimes having the board only partially deployed results in faster sailing but it depends on the boat and point of sail. You are pretty clever so you will figure it out.

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My husbands boss has a hoist kind of like this and we were thinking we could
use it to check our swing keel and maybe fix whatever is wrong with it. Now
that you posted these pictures of yours it will make it a bit easier to get it
done. It has been a busy summer (painting our house) now cooler weather
is here and not easy to work on a boat outside. Maybe we'll have some more
nice warm days before the snow flies!! Thanks again for the pics and info.. It's always appreciated and interesting.
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I'd also think about grinding out and re-sealing the top of your board above the pivot hole where it shows damage. You are lucky your swing keel/center board has not swelled as this damaged area clearly is below the water line and would allow water to intrude into the core.
I hear you. The thing has lasted 38 years tho. What ever water that gets in there obviously drains/drys out before winter has a chance to do any damage. I would worry about "fixing" it such that any opening is large enough to allow water in, but too small to allow it to come out or dry out. The core is a very hard foam, almost like bondo hard. If you look at the pic, you can see some delamination at the pivot hole. To seal it all perfectly may not be possible. There is a saying in the electrical trade that goes: "If you want to make something water proof, drill a drain hole in the bottom". Attempting a "fix" could spell disaster in this case. I'll try my luck as is.

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The thing has lasted 38 years tho.
... There is a saying in the electrical trade that goes: "If you want to make something water proof, drill a drain hole in the bottom".
Attempting a "fix" could spell disaster in this case. I'll try my luck as is.

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Since it hasn't been leaking or swelling on you, you lose nothing by doing nothing about it. Trying to 'fix' it and causing another problem would be a lot worse then doing nothing.
I like your electrical trades saying although I don't think it applies to boat hulls!

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Rebuilding the mast step
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Taking the time to fix another wet spot at the same time
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Hey there All Thumbs.

I just finished reading the whole thread. You have really out in an extraordinary effort. I have recently bought a DS 20 sail# 72. Your thread has really inspired me, and just in time for weather to start cooperating with a project.

I will be trailer it back and forth to the Bay of Quinte while repairing/restoring/sailing her the summer.

BTW, where did you get the 1/4 " sheets of fiberglass?

Again great work and documentation.
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I guess I should add some pictures of the results:

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