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davidpm 10-21-2008 12:14 AM

Reefing
 
We put these hooks on our Catalina 30
West Marine: Reefing Hooks Product Display

I tried them out yesterday in 30k and franky was not impressed. It was very hard to get the sail to hook into it.
The simplest solution would be to take them off and back into the shop and cut a half inch off the end. I donn't see why they have to be designed so so the sail is so hard to get hooked in.
Any ideas of how to rig reefing that is easy to do on the c30?

Faster 10-21-2008 12:45 AM

Those hooks are a bit tightly bent.. I can see the problem you may have. Our tack hooks are straight hooks that are easier to use. The reason your hooks are so "closed" is that it prevents the tack from falling off the hook before you can tension it back up.

One solution (since you already have the hooks) might be to modify them as you suggest, and/or have a sailmaker insert into your reef tack cringles a couple of SS rings tightly joined by webbing. That way you put the ring on the hook, you can easily do it on either tack, and the load is taken by the other ring on the opposite side of the cringle.

PM me if that's not clear, I can send you a sketch of what I mean. I've used this system before and it makes it much easier to get the tack secured.

Maine Sail 10-21-2008 07:49 AM

Those hooks are not designed to go through a sail grommet but rather a captive solid ss ring sewn onto the sail via 1" webbing at the luff reef points.

Thanks to forum member Catamount for this image! Ignore the block you need the SS ring. You can also rig one up to tie into the reefing cringle in the sail..

http://members.acadia.net/catamount/.../TackBlock.jpg

sailaway21 10-21-2008 11:11 AM

Those "hooks" are designed to serve as a fairlead on the boom for your reefing line and so do not actually hook anything. I'm not sure how you're reefing your sail but something like a cunningham hook might serve you better, as seen below.
West Marine: Cunningham Hooks Product Display

PalmettoSailor 10-21-2008 12:13 PM

The ring and webbing thingy's others have described are sometimes refered to as "dog bones".

The look sort of like this:

O---O

Where O = SS ring and --- = webbing sewn around the rings passing through the reef tack. The rings are sized so they will not fit through the tack cringle.

Delirious 10-21-2008 12:24 PM

You beat me. In a pinch you can also make an "O" out of suitable line starting with about a 30" length and a sheet bend and tie a figure-of-eight knot on either side of the sail (thread the loop through the cringle before tying the second f.o.8. knot). You end up with a couple inch loop on either side of the sail.

T34C 10-21-2008 03:32 PM

I personally use none of the above options. I have existing T-cleats on either side of the mast. I take a length of line with an eye spliced in one end that goes around one of the mast cleats. The line is just long enough to reach up through the reef cringle and have a stopper knot on the other side.

When it is time to reef, I slack the halyard, pull the stopper knot on the reef line down and tie off to the cleat on the mast. Easy, simple, no muss, no fuss.

SEMIJim 10-21-2008 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by midlifesailor (Post 387893)
The ring and webbing thingy's others have described are sometimes refered to as "dog bones".

The local North Sails loft calls them "floppy rings," IIRC. We had them added to our original main this season. (The racing main already had them.)

davidpm 10-22-2008 05:31 PM

Cool floppy rings or T-Cleats.
I'll make something work.


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