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I appreciate all of the posting on this subject. I am in the process of building a rudder using the old rudder as a template. So far so good I should have the new shaft out of 6082 aluminum this week. I have the mold already glassed in. My next is to set the shaft in and space it correctly then pour foam and close the top. This has not been bad other than time. The pain will be hauling the boat to do the installation.

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I appreciate all of the posting on this subject. I am in the process of building a rudder using the old rudder as a template. So far so good I should have the new shaft out of 6082 aluminum this week. I have the mold already glassed in. My next is to set the shaft in and space it correctly then pour foam and close the top. This has not been bad other than time. The pain will be hauling the boat to do the installation.
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Good for you! Would love to see some photographs of your work and hear about the problems you have encountered and what you have done to deal with them.

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ranes, with an aluminum rudder post, are you welding it to an aluminum armature as well? Or just using a post without armature in the rudder?

I'd thought that aluminum rudder posts would corrode even faster than stainless does.
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Hi Ranes,

I just inherited a 1977 37' Islander MS. My in laws and I are looking to redo this boat and would love some pictures of your boats (interior, exterior, cockpit and engine room) to give us some fresh ideas. Any help would be great. Thanks! Please PM me to get my Email address to send the pictures.

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Aluminum is fine for rudder posts, as long as there's no stainless in contact with it. Aluminum does quite well underwater, as long as it isn't in close proximity to more noble metals, like Stainless Steel, or Bronze.
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ranes, with an aluminum rudder post, are you welding it to an aluminum armature as well? Or just using a post without armature in the rudder?

I'd thought that aluminum rudder posts would corrode even faster than stainless does.

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"Aluminum is fine for rudder posts, as long as"
Which is why I asked, if there's no armature. It would be a small craft that had a rudder post with no other structural metal in the rudder.
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Wowser what a thread. About rudders when I grab onto mine I get a lot of wobble out of it and I am stinkin that I need to take it apart and clean and inspect everything. So i suppose my question would be what in tarnations should I be wanting to do to make it tight and not sloppy?

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Wowser what a thread. About rudders when I grab onto mine I get a lot of wobble out of it and I am stinkin that I need to take it apart and clean and inspect everything. So i suppose my question would be what in tarnations should I be wanting to do to make it tight and not sloppy?
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Where is the wobble on your rudder? If the blade is shifting on the stock (rudder shaft), you have a very serious problem... as in don't use the vessel until it is evaluated and repaired. If she is on the hard drill a hole in the bottom of the rudder and see if water comes out and then go from there.

If the movement is just slop in the steering system such as the bearings around the stock .... then you have some mechanical work to do such as bearing replacement and shim installation. Possible steering cable/chain replacement. Steering cable sheeve inspection and service.

Given the age of your vessel it's probably a good idea to drop the rudder and service the entire steering system if this has not be done recently.

Edson has some very good resources on their website including a checklist: Edson Steering Inspection Checklist.

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John,

After closer inspection last night I found the slop to be in the mechanical side of the system. I had my dad look at it as well he told me to take it apart do the bearnings and it would definately would need to be re shimmedthere was no water in the rudder itself. I am going to be doing a complete bottom job this spring as soon as it starts to warm up would it be recommended to apply a barrier coat to the rudder as well?

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