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Old 10-26-2008
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I have tried solvent strippers and all they do is get the paint tacky then evaporate and the paint just harden back up like the OP has stated. I have much more luck with gelled type products that stay viscous longer.
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I'm willing to give it a shot...
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I have tried solvent strippers and all they do is get the paint tacky then evaporate and the paint just harden back up like the OP has stated. I have much more luck with gelled type products that stay viscous longer.
I think that this is what happened, actually. However, for a product that is recommended to sit for 3 hours, it certainly didn't make it that long.

After 10 minutes, the paint was still as hard as a saphire crystal. I am not kidding. After 30 minutes it was still hard as glass.

I'll give it another shot this week. I have GOT to get the paint off this hull.

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Remember, the paint is suspended first in a solvent before it is applied. solvents are by design are meant to evaporate.
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Remember, the paint is suspended first in a solvent before it is applied. solvents are by design are meant to evaporate.
Yeah, I'm definitely thinking the same thing. Interstrip uses Toluene and MEK. Very volatile, and very nasty. The weird thing is that the paint didn't bubble or blister at all. All of the literature shows that after an application of this stuff, the paint is essentially sloughing off the surface. I might as well not have applied it for all the change it made to this paint.

I'm an engineer, so I get what happened, but I have NO experience with this kind of thing, and am glad that I have this forum to post to to get some different perspectives. The reality is that i am waiting for someone to identify for me the 'magic bullet' that will help me remove the paint without breaking my back, and without spending $1500 on soda blasting.

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Ok, I did not add pictures here, but I will point you to my blog where I am chronicling the repairs.

Cal 21 Refit

Take a look at the Nov 1 post for some info about where I am with the paint. I'd really appreciate your comments.
Thanks guys,

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Looking at the pic's you got more layers of paint than a single application of stripper can go through. time and money may i recommend soda blasting
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There are so many variables here: temperature, humidity, how thick a coat of stripper was applied and with what tool. Most strippers, Interstrip included, are designed to be applied in a HEAVY coat so that the outer layer skins over thereby tending to seal in the solvents in the inner layer. If the product dried too quickly (too hot and/or dry or too much wind), wasn't applied thickly enough (after the outer layer skinned there wasn't much left underneath so that it, too, all evaporated) then the stripper would not be effective. Still, it should have had at least some impact on the paint in some areas - those where it was thicker than others. Of course, we also do not know exactly what that paint is. Coatings such as Awlgrip and other two-part epoxies and modified epoxies are TOUGH (which is why people are willing to pay so much for them) and you may be up against something like that. I'd suggest you try again, this time in shaded areas with as thick a coat of stripper as you can get to stay in place on the hull. Then test it from time to time to see if it is working. Try a small area first so as not to waste too much stripper 'till you get a feel for how to work with it.
So far as it adversely affecting the laminate underneath, since you are working on an old boat, proceed with caution. Some early resins may be damaged by the extremely "hot" solvents in strippers whereas the newer epoxies are harder amd more dense.
As others have suggested, that boat will become a part of you (and you it). Great relationship to have! I know - I love my daughter - ....errrrr, BOAT, dearly!!
Have fun!!
BTW - some of the new soy-based strippers are very effective (Cap't John's Soy Strip comes to mind) and are environmentally friendlier than others.
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The grey stuff does look a lot like a barrier coat... In fact, I know quite a few people who have used Interprotect 2000 E as a primer coat, and that may be the case here. I get the funny feeling that a regular paint stripper would do very little to an epoxy barrier coat in terms of stripping it.
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