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I've had my fids for a couple months, and a piece of Sta Set and a piece of three-strand on which to experiment. I think I've collected the rest of the tools I need (scissors, etc.) and plan to soon give it a go. The Admiral gave me a copy of Brion Toss' splicing video for Christmas. (He uses his splicing wands, but what he teaches can be used with fids, as well.) He illustrates the procedures much better than the NER guide, IMO.

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Made my first ever eye splice today. About half way thru I tossed the instructions and just went by how I figured it should go. I used the NewEngland Ropes Unifids. Confusing instructions. Next time I will use Knotheads video and see if that seems easier.

Anyways, it came out ok.
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Nice work. My first (and second and third) splices on double braid ended up in the trash can.

I recently bought the Brion Toss splicing wand. I was reluctant to spend the money on it but now I don't know why I ever spliced any other way.
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Wink No fids necessary

Although I grant that doing anything exactly like Brion Toss recommends is the best course of action in most cases, and that his equipment is great, I just have to put a plug in for being primitive. I have now done a lot of eye splicing with double braid, including making dock lines, halyards, and traveler lines of all different sizes, and I have done all of it without the use of fids.

I watched the Brion Toss video which I highly recommend, read everything here, and searched google elsewhere until I found some great instructions that do not involve the use of fids. I was successful on my first try with a nice, tight and solid splice. By the way, the easiest and thus best measure of how much tail to bury is this: Take the diameter of the line, say 3/8, and convert to 16ths, so 6/16ths, and then divide the numerator in half and add it to itself, so 6 + 3 = 9 inches to bury. This is super simple math and way easier than multiplying anything by 22 or whatever in the other methods.

In the method I use, you use a simple Philips screwdriver and really just tape up the ends of the line to guide it through. It has always worked great, doesn't take long and no special tools.

Here is a link to where I learned this method. Thanks to them.

Double Braid Eye Splice

Maybe this method will work for someone else out there as well as it has worked for me.

Happy New Year everyone.
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Ha! You guys were right. I was using the fid length for 1/4" line, and my line was 1/2", so yeah, the fat part is too short on those two splices.

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I found this site How to Eye Splice double braid rope very easy to follow the last bit is the hardest. I tried to follow the New England rope instructions and got very lost.
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I watched the Brion Toss video which I highly recommend, read everything here, and searched google elsewhere until I found some great instructions that do not involve the use of fids. I was successful on my first try with a nice, tight and solid splice. By the way, the easiest and thus best measure of how much tail to bury is this: Take the diameter of the line, say 3/8, and convert to 16ths, so 6/16ths, and then divide the numerator in half and add it to itself, so 6 + 3 = 9 inches to bury. This is super simple math and way easier than multiplying anything by 22 or whatever in the other methods.

In the method I use, you use a simple Philips screwdriver and really just tape up the ends of the line to guide it through. It has always worked great, doesn't take long and no special tools.

Here is a link to where I learned this method. Thanks to them.

Double Braid Eye Splice

Maybe this method will work for someone else out there as well as it has worked for me.

Happy New Year everyone. [/QUOTE]

Thanks for the link! That is just what I was looking for. My pockets are a little light right now and I've got a lot of 25 year old lines to replace on my boat.

Gary H. Lucas
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Looks great Thumbs.

I hope this dose not burst your bubble, buy I didn't see any thimbles in the eye splice?

Sure looks slick tho...i can't wait to see your boat on the water.

Keep up the good work.
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Don't confuse him with details... he'll figure out the whole need for thimbles as soon as his brand new shiny eye splices chafe through.
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A big thanks to Allthumbs and to others on this thread for the inspiration to "give it a go". I have managed to do a body swerve on splicing so far, but it is now firmly included in my 2009 New Year resolutions as a "must do". In fact, it may well be my only resolution, come to think of it........

Happy New Year to one and all.

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