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post #11 of 15 Old 02-13-2009
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I guess you have had the full range of advice to work on and I won't add to that, except to say that I agree completely that your first step should be to make sure the battery is fully charged.

On a more general note, it is interesting to see how many people have starting "difficulties". The single-pot Volvo diesel in the boat I owned in the UK was always a slow starter, especially following de-winterisation. It had been fully checked out and everything was OK, except that the compression was slightly lower than new (not surprising, since it was 20+ years old), although within an acceptable range. The Yanmar 2GM in my present boat starts effortlessly, even in cold weather. It has low hours and I am simply speculating that older engines are slower to start mainly because of the declining compression issue.

Of course, engines with glow plugs will be different, since presumably the plugs would be able to "compensate" for the declining compression.....

Anyway, good luck and happy starting!

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Re: Diesel Engine won't start

Are Yanmar engines good reliable engines to repower a boat. I recently purchased a boat with a YANMAR 4JH-HTE 4 cylinder engine that will not crank over. I am looking for ideas where to start trouble shooting this. The engine supposedly has 375 hours on it. Should I be worried.

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Re: Diesel Engine won't start

It probably would be a good idea to start your own thread on this, seajayy, instead of attaching to a 7-year-old one. Include as many details as possible. Like, when you say won't crank over, do you mean no noise when you hit the start button? Or that it cranks, but doesn't fire.

Oh, and Yanmars are good engines.

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Re: Diesel Engine won't start

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Are Yanmar engines good reliable engines to repower a boat. I recently purchased a boat with a YANMAR 4JH-HTE 4 cylinder engine that will not crank over. I am looking for ideas where to start trouble shooting this. The engine supposedly has 375 hours on it. Should I be worried.
Crank or not crank??

4J Yanmar is likely one of the most reliable modern small diesels out there.

Battery state would be the first place to look, oil level (some have oil temp/level sensors) and neutral position sensors (so it doesn't start in gear). It may have a mechanical stop lever/cable if it is an older boat that shuts fuel off to stop the engine....these are not like automotive diesels where you just turn the key off.

more info would help
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Re: Diesel Engine won't start

I would not be cranking it with one cylinder on compression. Normally, one opens all compression releases and gets the engine turning over nicely then drop one compression release then the other(s) in the firing order.
What this does is circulate oil, water and fuel in their systems without the resistance of compression and stress on the starter. If you use starter fluid (as directed on the can and not too often) your diesel should start when it must (emergencies), but it won't help until you have compression.
Once it is running, how does it run? Does it hunt at idle, a sure sign of air in the fuel system. Have you changed the fuel filter since the rebuild and before the problem with starting began? Did the weather get colder just before the problem began? Do you have glow plugs that are not hooked up or can you add them? This also might help.
At any rate, with no compression, once you get the engine spinning nicely it should start on one cylinder without problem. If it doesn't and won't with starting fluid, then perhaps compression is the problem.
As for electric, with no compression, you are not putting much load on your battery so I doubt that electric is the problem. However, when it is, or at least a contributing factor, then most often it's the ground wire to the engine which is causing the problem. Clean that connection just for jollies anyway; it probably needs it.

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