delaminated deck repair - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 
  #1  
Old 02-20-2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
jackMcN is on a distinguished road
delaminated deck repair

I'm interested in a boat that is described as having wet and delaminated decks. The yard that has the boat reported to me that "There is no apparent water intrusion as you can see no water stains on the ceiling boards or other interior wood.The deck seems to be quite wet as we have taken core samples to determinethe extent of this. This core correction is estimated at $18-20,000".
My questions are:
1) What is the best method to repair this?
2) After repair, will the deck be safe?
3) what would be a reasonable price for this repair (31 foot sailboat)?
4) what is involved with repairing this?
5) Is this level of repair best left alone, search for another boat?

Any and all information on this issue will be appreciated. Jack
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 02-20-2009
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: wherever
Posts: 5,253
Thanks: 8
Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts
Rep Power: 10
xort has a spectacular aura about xort has a spectacular aura about xort has a spectacular aura about
Real hard to say. First thing I'd check into is the reputation of the yard. If they pass muster, get the owner to pay for the repair and when done to your satisfaction, you'll buy. Asuming the price is otherwise a good deal.

If done correctly the deck should be fine. They will probably peel off the deck, remove all the core, replace the core and then put the deck back on. there is variation on whether to put the deck back on or just glass over a new skin.

But is the boat worth sinking $20,000 into?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 02-20-2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
jackMcN is on a distinguished road
Thanks for the quick reply. The yard seems responsible and has lots of good references. The yard service manager has stated that the boat can be sailed for several years without the repair being done but that each winter the freeze / thaw cycle will cause more damage. The real question is: is it worth sinking $20K into the project. The boat had been listed for $20K more and the price dropped to reflect the cost of the project, so I'm not sure.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 02-20-2009
CrazyRu's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 452
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
CrazyRu is on a distinguished road
1. Open the deck from a top (remove top lay of fiberglass), remove rotted core, replace core, reglass it. Do it in segments.
2. Depending on a quality of job. It can be done to original specifications without any problems.
3. Materials cost around $3000 for entire deck, I guess.. It is simple, but labor consuming project, I’d do it in couple months singlehandedly.
4.I answered that one already
5. Yes, it is better left alone, there are, most likely, other problems as well. Besides, there are hundreds 30 ft boats sitting and waiting for a new owners.
There is tons of information on this forum and on internet on repairing coring problems
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 02-20-2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
jackMcN is on a distinguished road
Thanks CrazyRU, that's my big concern is if the deck is delaminating will there be other areas of delamination.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 02-20-2009
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,291
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Rep Power: 13
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
Quote:
Originally Posted by jackMcN View Post
I'm interested in a boat that is described as having wet and delaminated decks. The yard that has the boat reported to me that "There is no apparent water intrusion as you can see no water stains on the ceiling boards or other interior wood.The deck seems to be quite wet as we have taken core samples to determinethe extent of this. This core correction is estimated at $18-20,000".
My questions are:
1) What is the best method to repair this?
2) After repair, will the deck be safe?
3) what would be a reasonable price for this repair (31 foot sailboat)?
4) what is involved with repairing this?
5) Is this level of repair best left alone, search for another boat?

Any and all information on this issue will be appreciated. Jack
This can be repaired, but it is a very major task to do so. If properly repaired, the deck will be as strong as it was when originally built, if not stronger. The price really depends on how large the delaminated areas are—as I seriously doubt that the entire deck is delaminated.

The way this type of damage is generally repaired is cutting off the top laminate, removing the core material, replacing the core material, and then replacing the top laminate layer.

If the delaminated areas are extensive, I'd say you'd be better off getting a different boat. There are a lot of boats out there, and getting one that has been well maintained is often less expensive than buying the same boat with extensive damage and getting it repaired.
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 02-20-2009
Thanks Courtney.
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: IL
Posts: 3,951
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 10
T34C has a spectacular aura about T34C has a spectacular aura about T34C has a spectacular aura about
In this market I'd go shopping for another boat. There are to many boats out there without this kind of problem offered at good prices.
__________________
hunter Legend 37 Semper Paratus
Formerly - Tartan 34C Yawl
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 02-20-2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
jackMcN is on a distinguished road
Thank you all for your advice. This was my first post on sailnet and I'm very impressed with the quick responses. I'm not sure what I'm going to do but I've just started looking for a new boat and there seem to be some very good deals out there. I've been out of sailing for a few years with the kids in college but now they're out and it looks like a good time to be in the market for a boat.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 02-20-2009
CalebD's Avatar
Tartan 27' owner
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 4,498
Thanks: 4
Thanked 82 Times in 75 Posts
Rep Power: 7
CalebD will become famous soon enough
Generally speaking, boat mfr's will use the core method anywhere there is a flat surface so usually the hull will not have this kind of problem.
__________________
"The cure for anything is salt water~ sweat, tears, or the sea." ~Isak Denesen

Everybody has one:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 02-20-2009
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: wherever
Posts: 5,253
Thanks: 8
Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts
Rep Power: 10
xort has a spectacular aura about xort has a spectacular aura about xort has a spectacular aura about
BTW, welcome to Sailnet
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Deck Washdown Systems Sue & Larry Cruising Articles 0 02-23-2004 07:00 PM
Techniques for Removing Teak Decks Sue & Larry Buying a Boat Articles 0 11-24-2003 07:00 PM
Mounting Deck Hardware Tom Wood Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 06-25-2002 08:00 PM
How to Paint Your Own Deck Don Casey Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 02-04-2002 07:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:29 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012