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Hey guess what? I'm not US bashing at all. I thought that a smiley was supposed to invoke a sense of humour into the discussion. If you're devoid of one, then this board is surely not a good place to be.

I'm really just interested in why anyone would want to dry sand a boat. Why would one want to wear respirators and positive ventilation suits and dress up like an astronaut when all you have to do is wet-sand the thing?

Is there an up-side to dry sanding that I'm missing?
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I'm really just interested in why anyone would want to dry sand a boat. Why would one want to wear respirators and positive ventilation suits and dress up like an astronaut when all you have to do is wet-sand the thing?

Is there an up-side to dry sanding that I'm missing?
Less risk of electrocution than wet sanding...
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My marina here in Washington, which this state as I understand has some of the stricter hull cleaning laws in the US, ONLY allows me to sand with a vacuum attached to the sander. Other marina's/yards will allow dry, wet or chemical removal of bottom paint. Some like mine, ONLY a sander with a vacuum attached. A pain, as I was toying with a 90+% removal of the BP via baking soda?!?!?! then the final by sanding etc., then doing the bottom filling, keel faring, epoxy then new BPaint.

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Less risk of electrocution than wet sanding...
Ah, the lazy approach . I would never use any form of electric machine to wet-sand.

I use an articulated pad that takes half a sheet of water paper mounted on the end of a broom stick. It has a very thin line garden irrigation line from the holder's end going down to two holes drilled in the pad to which a trickling hose is connected during use. Picture will follow if requested.

I use 80 grit wet-or-dry paper and on my own I rubbed my 44 ftr down in 5 hours, easy as pie and a great key for the next coat.

But if you want to get your name in lights, use a machine . .
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Its all relevant to how many layers of paint are on there.
There is no way in Hell that yoiu were going to accomplish what we are going through in 5 hours. There is just no way thats going to happen.
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for the next coat.
I guess I need to clarify, we are removing all old paint and going down to gel, not just prepping the bottom for the next coat.
Lazy approach, I think not.
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When i bought my boat me and a freind spent the day cleaning the 3 coats of flaking bottomkote off the hull.The marina was closed for the night when we finished so I had to drive home looking like a smurf.
When I was waiting to turn on my street a speeding car that was weaving thru traffic didnt see my car and plowed into me at about 80 kph.
The emergency workers strapped me and my freind down in stretchers as a precaution and thats were we spent the next 5 hours as everyone in the hospital walked by us asking what the hell happened to us, laughing and pointing.
Other than bruising we were fine,the car and our pride, not so good.
Getting the stuff off my skin took days.
Some jobs on a boat are worth paying to have done.
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Hehehe,
I'm always tickled by the phrase, "properly disposed of". Almost no one really examines the question of what that means or involves. Usually it means that it is landfilled with similar products thereby increasing it's concentration and toxicity. Then it does become a pollutant as the very definition of pollution is based upon concentration. We also know how eager people are to build more hazardous waste dumps to fill up with Tyvek suits covered in otherwise fairly innocuous bottom paint sanding remains.

I thought you cleaned up nice, tjk. I look like that at the end of every day, covered in iron and manganese oxides. I return them from whence they came. You might try some cotton balls in your ears though.
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This stuff works well Barrier Cream 222®

I have used it with antifouling as well as working with epoxy.
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