Removing water from hardware hole - SailNet Community
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 10 Old 03-28-2009 Thread Starter
Member
 
moonie5961's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 40
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Removing water from hardware hole

x

Last edited by moonie5961; 10-29-2011 at 11:24 AM.
moonie5961 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 Old 03-28-2009
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: wherever
Posts: 5,279
Thanks: 8
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 11
     
vacuum? Seal the hose good and suck water out. Then use a heat gun to dry it out?
xort is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 10 Old 03-28-2009
Senior Member
 
quidam1947's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Cincinnati, OH (for now)
Posts: 118
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
Send a message via Skype™ to quidam1947
Acetone is less dense than water and therefore will only sit ontop of any water. Same with Alcohol. Xtorts' suggestions are good but you need to be very careful of catching what you're working on, on fire. Better to pick a good sunny day and let the area aire dry.
quidam1947 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 10 Old 03-28-2009
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: wherever
Posts: 5,279
Thanks: 8
Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts
Rep Power: 11
     
it will take a lot of heat to do any damage. considering the amount of heat typically used on hoses to get them pliable, I doubt you will do any damage heating up the hole after vacuuming.
xort is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 10 Old 03-28-2009
..........huh?..
 
Izzy1414's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Grants Pass,OR
Posts: 395
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by xort View Post
it will take a lot of heat to do any damage. considering the amount of heat typically used on hoses to get them pliable, I doubt you will do any damage heating up the hole after vacuuming.
Moonie,

I'm with xort, don't think you will hurt anything with heat gun or blow dryer. Your drilling might do it too but it's going to be best to do all you can do to get the moisture out.

S/V Boccata d'Aria

I'm not sure what Dickens are, but I think they may be important and I sure as hell don't want them scared out of me.......Izzy
Izzy1414 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 10 Old 03-28-2009
midlife crisis member
 
AllThumbs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 975
Thanks: 0
Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
The drilling won't dry any wood. It will remove some wet wood, but there will be no heat created due to the drilling. I would probably drill it, then dry with a heater or the sun. Even this will only work if the wood is only wet at the hole. If the wood is soaked, I doubt it would ever dry.

I sail.
AllThumbs is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 10 Old 03-28-2009
Senior Member
 
Maine Sail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Maine Coast
Posts: 5,827
Thanks: 19
Thanked 213 Times in 162 Posts
Rep Power: 16
       
Be very

Be very careful with real heat guns. These things get very, very hot and can blister and burn gelcoat quite easily.

I would also advise leaving the skins in place and removing a bit of core. The skins are your strength and the bond of epoxy to moist wood is next to nil so over drilling damp core will leave you with a very weak plug and minimal to no bond strength.

Use a light bulb or a vacuum method as a trial or cut the decks open and repair them correctly. You don't really make it clear of this was just moisture that got in there after you removed the bolts, and did not cover the holes, or this was an on going long term leak due to bedding issues.

The sad reality is that if the decks have been leaking for a while there is no real way to dry them other than to cut them open and replace the core.

Injecting anything into wet or damp core also achieves basically nothing except making the proper repair more difficult when the time comes...

The strongest method for potting deck core holes. Note that the "plug" is captive and the top and bottom skins remain intact leaving the integrity of the skin laminates untouched:



Optional methods that are weaker and less strong than with top and bottom skins intact. The one on the left is a complete over drill (probably the worst choice) and the one on the right is a top skin over bore only (slightly better)..

______
-Maine Sail / CS-36T


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.




Images In Posts Property of Compass Marine Inc.



Last edited by Maine Sail; 03-28-2009 at 10:48 PM.
Maine Sail is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 10 Old 03-29-2009
Senior Member
 
Maine Sail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Maine Coast
Posts: 5,827
Thanks: 19
Thanked 213 Times in 162 Posts
Rep Power: 16
       
Quote:
Originally Posted by moonie5961 View Post
I have no way of knowing if the leak was prolonged or not, I have had the boat for a week tomorrow. Surveyor and my own moisture reader findings indicate that the decks are dry, still have that nice sharp ring when sounded with a screw driver handle. The holes were only exposed for a day or two, we had light misty drizzle.. but again, I stress... as far as I know, the decks are dry. Today we had a train of torrential rainfall come through Charleston, I did a quick (effectiveness remains to be seen) cover job with a slew of duck tape.
The manufacturer glassed over fittings from below so that deck leaks will not make themselves known.
Interesting choice of tool for a professional surveyor.. Did I read it right that he did not have his own moisture meter and you used yours? Most would use a small brass or phenolic/plastic hammer but if that is what he is used to than I'm sure it could work for him..

If that is all the moisture that is in there then a simple red heat lamp bulb (any hardware store will have them) about 10-12" off the deck in one of those aluminum clamp on work shop lamps will dry it out ..

______
-Maine Sail / CS-36T


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.




Images In Posts Property of Compass Marine Inc.


Maine Sail is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 10 Old 03-29-2009
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: chesapeake bay
Posts: 1,942
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
if the hole goes all the way thru make a chimney out of some cardboard or sheet metal. put it below the hole taped to the hull, then put a night light in the chimney ( 7 watt bulb ). this will slightly heat the air and get some air flowing thru the hole due to the chimney effect. i would bet this would work way better over night than a heat gun could in an hour, just check it after a half an hour to make sure its not getting too hot
scottyt is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 10 Old 03-29-2009
Reward for lost Kraken!
 
hellosailor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 11,445
Thanks: 5
Thanked 131 Times in 128 Posts
Rep Power: 11
   
But alcohol doesn't just sit on top of the water, it mixes with it. And then pulls the water out as the mix evaporates.

Buy cheap isopropanol form the drug store, usually available in three dilutions, each consisting of alcohol plus water. Use the 90%+ kind, it will be able to pull out more water and evaporate faster, since there's less in it to start with.

That won't un-saturate a soggy layer or coring, but it will pull moisture out of whatever is in direct contact with it.

Last edited by hellosailor; 03-29-2009 at 01:34 PM.
hellosailor is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Catalina 445 nemier Boat Review and Purchase Forum 33 01-29-2013 07:16 PM
Blisters Michael201 Gear & Maintenance 5 02-07-2009 05:36 PM
Potable Water tdw Provisioning 31 08-11-2007 07:30 AM
removing orig water tank zeilfanaat Gear & Maintenance 6 04-12-2004 06:26 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome