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post #11 of 16 Old 04-14-2009
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So, my boat has a self-tacking 100% jib using a track. It's great for short-tacking to windward up the estuary and lazy sailing days. Between that and the power winches the crew is getting positively lazy.

There are some downsides, most notably when heading dead downwind in light breezes. We usually just give up and roll up the jib under those circumstances since the flapping back and forth getting pretty anoying very quickly. I also think tacks are a bit slower since you can't back the jib to help the bow go across. And heaving-to means going forward to set a pinstop to keep the jib backed.

All in all though, for short-handed sailing its great.

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BC - can you reach your primaries from the helm? If so, I think you may be able to tack the genoa single handed. Your boat is going to want a genoa for the light days on the Chesapeake, which really precludes using a self tacking arrangement.

I single hand and can tack my 145 on my own, with or without the help of the autopilot managing the tack.

Worst, worst case....roll up the genoa, tack the main and pull out the genoa on the new tack.

I'd suggest you try to avoid adding this hardware....but there is no harm in trying out your centerline block idea this season. Try it and let us know how it works.
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I may just be over anticipating issues that won't be there. I'm used to racing where every task is parsed out to individual crew members so that every movement of the boat and trim of the sails is crisp and quick.

I have a pair of Barient 22's within easy reach just forward of the wheel. And I do have an autopilot too, but I'd rather not resort to using it for tacking if I don't have to.

I'm just having a hard time trying to visualize how, (while sailing close hauled on a breezy day for example), I'm going to turn the wheel, release the lazy sheet, and reel in the working sheet to a point where I won't have to wear out the crank trimming in afterward... All while making sure the boat maintains the proper angle to the wind.

It sounds like you're not having any trouble, so I guess I just need to work through the timing of doing it myself.

(I'm still gonna try the centerline block setup to see if it works. It doesn't cost anything to rig it that way, and it'll only take a handful of tacks to know if it works or not).

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http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/o...dt/boat014.jpg

This is my setup.

The pivot is placed back far nuff to allow the boom to go just short of 90 degrees.

The rigging is just like end boom sheeting on a main or mizzn.

I can sheet the jib boom to the center of the boat.

Good for lazy sailing.

The boom also is my gin pole for lowering the mast to go under bridges.

One thing with the pivot where it is though--you can't just drop the jib, you need to release the hanks as it comes down or raise the boom.

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Backcreek.. If you sail singlehanded, make a habit of just using a 100% jib (if you have one) and continue to use your regular sheeting track arrangement. The center-block idea will not give proper sailtrim in any conditions nor at any angle of attack. Using a non overlapping sail will greatly ease the tacking by avoiding hangups and minimizing the amount of sheet to be pulled through.

Your C&C will move OK in all but the lightest conditions. I'd avoid the unnecessary complications associated with the various self tacking arrangements. Most boats that have such setups are designed with that in mind from the get-go.

If your primaries are reachable from the helm, it's a simple matter of coordinating the turn, and handling the sheets yourself. - and you'll get more exercise to boot!

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