Frozen Prop - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 
  #1  
Old 04-14-2009
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Mobile Alabama
Posts: 44
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
thisisus is on a distinguished road
Frozen Prop

Trying to remove the folding prop off the shaft to replace with a fixed one. Any suggestions on ways to free a stubborn prop. Trying to avoid pulling the whole shaft out since involves dropping the rudder (which also involves having the yard pick up the boat to take it off). Using a 3 part wheel puller and already broke a finger on one. No budge. Was thinking of heating it. Other option take a sawzall and try to slice in two sections. Any ideas appreciated. Should have known this haulout was going too good.

Thisisus
Islander 32
Mobile AL
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 04-14-2009
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 30
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
boofus is on a distinguished road
Heat and puller...... Something hot like mapp of oxy-cet so you heat the prop fast, not the shaft and prop together. sorry to hear about the finger....pullers can be a pain to juggle and set. I would put some tension on the puller and with heat it should pop.....
Good luck
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 04-14-2009
Faster's Avatar
Just another Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 15,338
Thanks: 88
Thanked 242 Times in 233 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about Faster has a spectacular aura about
Heat is certainly an option, to be used with caution (for obvious reasons).. Another would be to load up the puller again, and give it a good hard smack on the puller screw head... the shock might break the prop free of the taper. Soak it overnight with penetrating oil too.

If you do try the hard tapping method, do not stand directly in line with the shaft/prop when you do. Even better, leave the nut halfway on - the space between the nut partially threaded on and the prop will be plenty break free on the taper.
__________________
Ron

1984 Fast/Nicholson 345 "FastForward"

".. there is much you could do at sea with common sense.. and very little you could do without it.."
Capt G E Ericson (from "The Cruel Sea" by Nicholas Monsarrat)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 04-14-2009
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 1,174
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 14
k1vsk will become famous soon enough
Heat and puller with mapp gas as previously noted. The only reason I reiterate it is to add this caution - make sure the nut is loosely on the shaft as, when the prop goes release, it will snap back into what/who ever is directly in it's path unless the nut is there to stop it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 04-15-2009
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts
Rep Power: 13
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
Very good advice here...
Quote:
Originally Posted by k1vsk View Post
Heat and puller with mapp gas as previously noted. The only reason I reiterate it is to add this caution - make sure the nut is loosely on the shaft as, when the prop goes release, it will snap back into what/who ever is directly in it's path unless the nut is there to stop it.
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 04-15-2009
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Mobile Alabama
Posts: 44
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
thisisus is on a distinguished road
So regular propane torch won't heat up quick enough? Guess that gas won't mix with a regular torch head. Have to see if I can locate one and give that a try. Left the wheel puller attached with a load on it when I left the yard tonight. Maybe I'll try to hit the end first and then go for the heat next. Appreciate the ideas.

Thisisus
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 04-15-2009
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: chesapeake bay
Posts: 1,942
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 7
scottyt is on a distinguished road
yes mapp gas works with a standard propane head
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 04-15-2009
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 30
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
boofus is on a distinguished road
If propane is all you have on hand try it, but mapp is considerably hotter
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 04-15-2009
Fstbttms's Avatar
I don't discuss my member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Under a boat, in a marina, in the San Francisco Bay
Posts: 2,109
Thanks: 4
Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts
Rep Power: 12
Fstbttms will become famous soon enough
A gear pullers is not the right tool for the job. Use a real prop puller. Tension it up, bang the hell out of it with a small sledge (the puller, not the prop!) and if the prop doesn't come loose, reposition it and try again. Pressure, persistence and patience are the keys. The prop will come off. BTW, using a torch should not be necessary.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 04-15-2009
celenoglu's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 580
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 7
celenoglu is on a distinguished road
Use a freezer spray, and use a hammer on the nut.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Switching to a Three Blade Prop Redfish Pacific Seacraft 6 03-31-2009 10:13 PM
Seafarer 26' prop shaft replacement jkimberly Gear & Maintenance 5 02-17-2009 12:04 PM
Folding Propeller Problems slj145c Gear & Maintenance 4 05-21-2008 09:39 AM
Choosing the Right Propeller Sue & Larry Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 02-04-2003 08:00 PM
Choosing a Prop Sue & Larry Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 12-24-2001 08:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:02 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.