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We use 8. We have midship cleats on our jib tracks which can be adjusted for transiet slips for the spring lines.

When comming into the slip especially single handed the stern spring line on the midship cleat is usally my first tie as that prevents the boat from hitting the dockbox with its bow and going to far forward into the slip. We have sewn with opposing thread color on all of our lines where they usually should be cleated as we leave our dock lines when we leave. Do this after you are happy with all your adjustments for tide over a period of time.

Our 35 ft in a 54X18 slip gives us a lot of room to play with, but also makes it harder to grab all the lines. You will find that wind direction when coming in will determine which lines to grab first ( port or starboard). We also pull in bow first for many reasons. One is privacy, two is our finger comes back almost 40 feet back making it easy to load or get on or off the boat, and third is there is less area turning needed when backing out of the slip as opposed to backing into it.


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Because I've see line can pt the strain on them. This is generally more the case with coaming mounted winches than with cabintop mounted ones... but still. I'd rather spend the money on buying and installing an amidships cleat than repairing the cabintop. Also, the chances that the docklines lead fair to the winch are less than good.

BTW, stanchion mounted cleats are only good for fender lines or flag halyards, since the stanchion isn't going to resist much force before it tears out.
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Nobody really touched on this, but is there any reason why I couldn't or shouldn't use my primary winches in place of using amidships cleats for springlines? (I know someone that does this on a 34' J105 just down the creek from me that has no amidships cleats either and it seemed to work ok for his boat).

BTW... The PO did leave a couple Schaefer nylon rail-mounted cleats attached to stanchions. But I don't think I'd want an 8000 lb displacement boat pulling on one of my stanchions or my railing via one of those things. So I think I'll just keep those for fender hangers.


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My slip is perfectly sized for my 36' boat and we dock head in, so we have a waterview from the cockpit, and folks on the dock don't have a view of my saloon. We use 2 lines crossed at the bow, 2 lines crossed at the stern and a single set of springlines on the starboard side, since the finger pier is on the port side and springs there would be a tripping hazard. For heavy weather prep, I add additional sets of lines bow and stern and put springlines on the port side, strip sails and canvas and put out our spare fenders and fenderboards.

Our previous boat was a 32 in a slip sized for a 40+ foot boat. Docking there was a pain, since you had to retreive the stern lines and aft springline from the aft pilings as you entered the slip and pay them out as you moved forward to position the boat where you wanted to secure it. Once in the slip, it was secured in a similar fashion to our current boat with 10' of line between the stern and the piling. On the plus side, I could dock my dingy behind my boat and not have anything in the fairway. lol

I don't tie off to a winch, but I have read that if you do, you should tie off is such a way that the load is not applied to the winch pawls. I took it to mean it was ok to put a loop over the winch and secure the other end, but not to put a loop around a piling and wrap the line on the winch as you would when it was in use. I can't say if it really will prevent damage to the winch but it sounds reasonable.

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