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Pub911 05-24-2009 10:51 PM

Head failure...
 
...in every sense of the words.

So my Raritan Cricket compact manual head sprung a leak and I think I need to get a new one. Raritan no longer sells rebuild kits for this model - and I really don't think it would help, as the plastic housing has deformed around the fasteners so much, the main gasket is letting water squirt right by despite my well-intended calking job and all the pleasures of squirming around in that environment while the rest of the world is sailing around Memorial Day weekend.

I've searched the forums and have found some recommendations. Raritan seems to have a good rep (and I suppose mine has served it's time 'under' me for about 10 good years). So I'm inclinded to stay with Raritan.

In reading other posts, I saw a reference to the fact that the bowl may be standard model and could be used on a new pump. Anybody know have any information about how to do this? Is it just a call to Raritan?

Other advice welcome as well.

Thanks!

curtis34208 05-24-2009 11:11 PM

Ah, the joys of boat ownership....

My experience with distorted head pump housing (Raritan and others) is that once this happens the only effective long-term solution is to replace the housing....caulking, clamping, adding o-rings/gaskets...just never works out for long...

sailingdog 05-25-2009 09:24 PM

Raritan now sells the base and pump for the Raritan PHII and PHC as replacement units and you may well be able to re-use the bowl from your cricket on the PHC... Sailboatowners.com has them as a normal order item.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pub911 (Post 489123)
...in every sense of the words.

So my Raritan Cricket compact manual head sprung a leak and I think I need to get a new one. Raritan no longer sells rebuild kits for this model - and I really don't think it would help, as the plastic housing has deformed around the fasteners so much, the main gasket is letting water squirt right by despite my well-intended calking job and all the pleasures of squirming around in that environment while the rest of the world is sailing around Memorial Day weekend.

I've searched the forums and have found some recommendations. Raritan seems to have a good rep (and I suppose mine has served it's time 'under' me for about 10 good years). So I'm inclinded to stay with Raritan.

In reading other posts, I saw a reference to the fact that the bowl may be standard model and could be used on a new pump. Anybody know have any information about how to do this? Is it just a call to Raritan?

Other advice welcome as well.

Thanks!


JimsCAL 05-26-2009 09:04 AM

I suspect when you price the cost of the parts needed, it will come close to are even exceed the cost of new head. Over the years I had rebuilt my Groco HF a couple of times. It was due again last year and found that a new Jabsco wasn't much more than than a new pump unit for the Groco.

genieskip 05-26-2009 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pub911 (Post 489123)
...in every sense of the words.

So my Raritan Cricket compact manual head sprung a leak and I think I need to get a new one. Raritan no longer sells rebuild kits for this model - and I really don't think it would help, as the plastic housing has deformed around the fasteners so much, the main gasket is letting water squirt right by despite my well-intended calking job and all the pleasures of squirming around in that environment while the rest of the world is sailing around Memorial Day weekend.

I've searched the forums and have found some recommendations. Raritan seems to have a good rep (and I suppose mine has served it's time 'under' me for about 10 good years). So I'm inclinded to stay with Raritan.

In reading other posts, I saw a reference to the fact that the bowl may be standard model and could be used on a new pump. Anybody know have any information about how to do this? Is it just a call to Raritan?

Other advice welcome as well.

Thanks!

I recently yanked the Raritan head out of my boat and replaced it with a composting head. There was nothing wrong with the head itself, just the plumbing beyond the head. I threw out all the plumbing but kept the head, which is in good shape but which I will probably never use, since I have become a full convert to the composting head philosophy. You are welcome to the head, if you are willing to pick it up. I'm just over the CT border in NY state, off 84. PM for better directions if you are interested.

sailingdog 05-26-2009 10:34 AM

I'd point out that the Jabsco heads are a pretty low-quality unit, and that you're generally much better off avoiding them. This isn't only my opinion, but that of Peggie Hall, doyene of the marine plumbing world. :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by JimsCAL (Post 489407)
I suspect when you price the cost of the parts needed, it will come close to are even exceed the cost of new head. Over the years I had rebuilt my Groco HF a couple of times. It was due again last year and found that a new Jabsco wasn't much more than than a new pump unit for the Groco.


JimsCAL 05-26-2009 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sailingdog (Post 489428)
I'd point out that the Jabsco heads are a pretty low-quality unit, and that you're generally much better off avoiding them. This isn't only my opinion, but that of Peggie Hall, doyene of the marine plumbing world. :)

SD, I had reservations for similar reasons, but talked to a number of friends who were happy with theirs and found a number of good customer reviews on the web. It seems to be as well made as my old Groco and has worked flawlessly for over a season. So far so good.

Pub911 05-27-2009 12:44 PM

Attention genieskip:

Thank you for the generous offer. I am very close to you - I work in Danbury, CT. Can you tell me the model # so I can be sure it will fit?

Similar PM left for you.

Again, many thanks.

Pub911 06-05-2009 11:57 PM

Hey Genieskip,

Head works great.....whoohoo!!!

Thanks for being a packrat...if ever I can return the favor, just let me know. So great to be able to enjoy my favorite seat on the boat again!

Thanks to you and all the good people on this website.

Fair winds, all.

Pub911 s/v Serena
New Haven CT

Selkirk 06-06-2009 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genieskip (Post 489418)
..............You are welcome to the head, if you are willing to pick it up................

Are you CRAZY?! Used toilets are required decorations for the front of every trailer in my state. They go right next to the used water heater in the front yard and are always back dropped by a piece of tin. (I don't know where the piece of tin comes from)

And if used toilets are in such demand I can only imagine what an honest to God used MSD would go for.

Sell it!:) Or at least put a for sale sign on it so someone will steal it.


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