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Cool Knot Site

knothead,
I got the buntline link. The Grog Animated Knot site is very clear.

I did not get a link for the halyard knot however. I will look it up in my knot book.

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Adam Lein,
I talked to a rigger today. Now I understand better what you meant by the "tucked" part. My boat specifies 3/8" for the halyard but I had 1/2". The tucked part did not fit in the sheave. The rigger says if the sheave accepted the untucked part of the 1/2" line, then it will accept the tucked part of the new 3/8" line. I'll install a proper 3/8" halyard this weekend and see what happens.

Thanks all for your comments and suggestions.
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You could also try the stopper ball technique that is shown in this post. The Farr 40 guys use it to reduce weight up the mast and even the Wayfarer guys use it for simplicity. Knothead and I had a similar chat a while back.

I was going to use it on Eclipse but ended up splicing in a shackle as the PO bought a main that is 1-1/2' short of the mast head so space was not an issue.
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You could also try the stopper ball technique that is shown in this post.
I don't think I'd be comfortable with that. If you should find yourself in a situation where the tension was let off the main for some reason (say, oh, somebody forgot to put the top batten in, so it had to be dropped again--while under way, or sombody else got confused and when the instruction was given to drop the genoa following raising the chute, they instead released the main's clutch) and the head was up there flogging in the wind, I could see that popping off. Then the command is given to re-raise the main and bye-bye halyard. It won't go through the sheave, but getting it down quickly would be another story.

I think I'll stick with my good ol' tried-and-true bowline

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Speaking of which, can you approximate just how much clearance you have between headboard and sheave with the luff snug?
Well, I hesitate here. First off, my halyard is half rope, half wire, and the wire half is the part that shackles to the headboard. My advice was experience with eye splices elsewhere. Also, my main is pretty old and the luff never really gets "snug". But when it's absolutely as high as ever we can pull it, it appears, from my vantage point on the deck (where it's hard to get a sense of scale) to be about one and a half times the height of the headboard.
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Also, my main is pretty old and the luff never really gets "snug". But when it's absolutely as high as ever we can pull it, ...
Why can't you get your luff tight? ISTM you either get it tight or run out of mast. You say you're not running out of mast, so...?

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Patrick Rea,
Well don't that beat all! That stopper ball technique that you pointed me to looks to be the most compact. It looks like it would work well in the case of very little clearance between the headboard and masthead sheave.

I agree with SEMIJim that it looks like it might shake loose but I have several holes in my headboard that might allow me to secure the end.

I feel well armed now with a variety of solutions to my sail raising problem. My first choice is to replace the 1/2" halyard with a 3/8" halyard as specified by the manufacturer. If that does not work I have more techniques to try.

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Why can't you get your luff tight? ISTM you either get it tight or run out of mast. You say you're not running out of mast, so...
Well that's a good question. While it's a bit OT for this thread, I think it's partly the fact that we don't have a winch for the halyard, and partly the fact that the sail material has been stretched more than the cable that runs through the luff. The halyard goes from being easy to hoist to very very hard, then we jump it a few times, and when there's no more there's no more and there's still some scalloping. We have an unused main that we haven't put on yet (came with the boat) and eventually will try it out.
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