Sewing Machine Advice Needed - Page 2 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > On Board > Gear & Maintenance
 Not a Member? 
  #11  
Old 06-19-2009
MMR's Avatar
MMR MMR is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Annapolis, MD
Posts: 355
Thanks: 6
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
MMR is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to MMR
Walking foot

From Wikipedia,

Quote:
Feed dogs are the feeder mechanism in a sewing machines which is typically used to pull fabric through a sewing mechanism.

A set of feed dogs typically resembles two or three short, thin metal bars, crosscut with diagonal furrows, which move back and forth in grooves slightly larger than the bars. The type of motion used (forward, then down, then backwards, then up) serves to pull the fabric through, since the "dogs" are in contact with the material on the forward stroke, and are pulled down below the main plate on the backward stroke by the sewing machine's mechanism. The result is that, between stitches, the fabric is pulled along in discrete steps.
Feed Dogs work from underneath the fabric. A Walking Foot provides a similar coordinated feeder mechanism from the top, so that the two layers of fabric feed through without slipping out of alignment. This is useful for boat sewing, since much of the fabric is stiff and/or slippery, and does not like to STAY PUT unless strongly spoken to and dealt with.

I have a $300 Singer I bought new; seems to be working ok, but is struggling to feed the heavier fabrics. I've done alot of sewing, so I've got strategies to make the thing work; however, I have an older Singer model (Golden Touch & Sew), that is gear driven (as opposed to the newer belt driven models) that I suspect would feed and handle the fabric better.

If you decide to go for an older Singer, I'd look for the gear driven ones.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #12  
Old 06-19-2009
JimMcGee's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Barnegat Bay, NJ
Posts: 1,461
Thanks: 26
Thanked 32 Times in 30 Posts
Rep Power: 10
JimMcGee is on a distinguished road
Makes sense, now I get why SailRite recommends it.
__________________
95 Catalina 30 Island Time

If a man is to be obsessed by something, I suppose a boat is as good as anything, perhaps a bit better than most" - E.B. White
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #13  
Old 06-19-2009
Owner, Green Bay Packers
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SW Michigan
Posts: 10,318
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 12
sailaway21 is just really nice sailaway21 is just really nice sailaway21 is just really nice sailaway21 is just really nice
At risk of repeating myself, I think one will find the new Casey book worth the price of purchase just for the information on finding a used but capable machine for sailmaking, all on it's own. The treasure trove of other information on matters of boat restoration is similarly priceless.
__________________
“Scientists are people who build the Brooklyn Bridge and then buy it.”
Wm. F. Buckley, Jr.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #14  
Old 06-19-2009
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: subject to change
Posts: 1,264
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
eryka is on a distinguished road
We've got a new Sailrite and an old Kenmore (from the days when Kenmore was all-metal). LOVE the Sailrite! 8 layers of Sunbrella, no problem. Isinglass, no problem. And as MMR explained, the walking foot makes all the seams flat and sturdy. Can you consider buying a Sailrite (new or used) for your project and then selling it when you're done? I'm pretty experienced at sewing and the sailrite has improved every boat project we've done. (bimini, upholstery, and (attention CD) a cover for our barbeque grill.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #15  
Old 06-20-2009
sww914's Avatar
Aspiring to be a Mexican
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: La Cruz de Hunacaxtle, Mexico
Posts: 542
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 7
sww914 is on a distinguished road
Both of my parents are upholsterers and I've done plenty of cushions and canvas. You will probably never use zig-zag on cushions, canvas, or curtains. You will use it on sails.
To sew several layers of heavy material you must have a walking foot or it will be miserable.
You can sew up a pair of undies for granny without the walking foot, but that's about it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #16  
Old 06-20-2009
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 67
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
Archis is on a distinguished road
Today we're driving down to Annapolis to check out the sailrites in person.

Thanks for the tip on the Don Casey book, I need to try and dig up a copy somewhere.
__________________
Jim
1973 P33-1 s/v "Tipota"
Baltimore, Md
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #17  
Old 06-20-2009
rikhall's Avatar
old guy :)
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Fredericton, NB, Canada
Posts: 1,037
Thanks: 12
Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts
Rep Power: 7
rikhall will become famous soon enough
Hi all

Last week got a quote from the "dodger making guy" for a price to replace the Sunbrella on my dodger. This morning I spent some time with the owner of "Sewing World" here where I live.

Bottom line:

He says - I (me only):

do not need zig zag
do need walking foot
do need a good strong machine
used is fine - especially pre-1965 - mostly good metal parts then

(According to him (his opinion only) Sailrite is good but over priced for what you get.)

I have seen Sailrite on-line for about $500.00 or so.

My good news is I expect the dodger and bimini to easily get me through at least one more season after this one so I have 18 months to find what I want.

Good thread.
__________________
Irwin Citation 34
Mystery
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #18  
Old 06-20-2009
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 288
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 7
genieskip is on a distinguished road
When I took stock last year I found that to buy all the canvas projects I wanted for my boat would be somewhere in the 12 to 15 thousand dollar vicinity if ordered retail. That was scary. I instead opted for buying the Sailrite zig zag machine. Over the winter I made all new cushions (six large for sleeping and countless others for comfort/storage), a mainsail stackpack cover, a storm jib, all the cones for a jordan series drogue, a parachute storm anchor, FWG locker cubbies, sheet bags and some fender holders for the cockpit lockers. I'm not half way through my list of to-do's, which still has - rebuild dodger, new bimini, storm trysail, binnacle cover etc, etc, etc......

I recommend sailrite as a great place for supplies. As someone who has done a fair bit of hand sewing (rebuilding spinnakers on long ocean races after taking the lead in blowing them out was a specialty of mine - especially the blowing them out part!) but I was completely innocent of sewing machine work. I found their instructional videos invaluable, the ones on how to use their machines and the ones that were project specific. They are great if you are starting from zero, as I was. There is a confidence quotient that comes from actually seeing something being done, as opposed to reading about it or trying to reinvent the wheel by not getting any reference.

Sailrite is a bit more expensive than you could probably find on the internet if you know what you are looking for, but I love the convenience of looking at their catalog, finding exactly what I need and then ordering the part or the kit, complete with instruction and having the thing arrive a few days later.

I am no expert on sewing machines, having only used two in my life, my wife's home machine and my Sailrite. I can say that when working on large projects the walking foot feature makes life easier and I like the zig zag feature that has permitted me both to make and to repair sails. I'll post some pic soon (camera is on the boat and it's raining on the east coast for a change)
__________________
genieskip
Northeast
J40
1991
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #19  
Old 06-20-2009
MMR's Avatar
MMR MMR is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Annapolis, MD
Posts: 355
Thanks: 6
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
MMR is on a distinguished road
Send a message via AIM to MMR
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archis View Post
Today we're driving down to Annapolis to check out the sailrites in person.

Thanks for the tip on the Don Casey book, I need to try and dig up a copy somewhere.
Hey, Archis! Was just in Sailrite this am. Busy there today, with all the rain we're having!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
  #20  
Old 06-20-2009
WinterRiver's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 278
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 9
WinterRiver is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by MMR View Post
Hey, Archis! Was just in Sailrite this am. Busy there today, with all the rain we're having!
In Sailrite... I'm jealous! Raining again in RI now too.

Looking forward to the pics, genieskip. Perhaps we need a "show me your recent canvas and cushion work" thread.
__________________
Hylas 47
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Furling advice needed MiVelero Gear & Maintenance 5 05-01-2009 12:32 AM
Advice needed! Should I invest in servicing an old Avon/Mariner RIB? JodyP Gear & Maintenance 8 04-01-2009 12:39 PM
12v & 24v bus advice needed smilie Gear & Maintenance 1 04-25-2006 08:02 AM
Sewing Machine for Canvas Work offline2004 Gear & Maintenance 5 02-21-2006 11:22 AM
Cruising Advice Needed!!! 2 or 3 cabin for 3 single guys? robbieturner Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 5 10-17-2001 06:26 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:25 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.