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Old 08-14-2009
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More NUTS!!!!

Today I was aboard checking out why the steering suddenly got stiff as we approached home at the end of the recent cruise.

Initially, I atttributed it to a failure of the pedestal steering lock to release completely. Today, I started at the business end of the steering -- overboard to look at the rudder. Nothing fouling the rudder on the outside. Then I disconnected the steering cables from the quadrant to see if the rudder would turn freely.

Much to my dismay, turning the quadrant by hand with no steering gear attached produced a grinding noise accompanied by difficulty in moving the quadrant. But, I say to myself, I had the rudder bearings checked last year!!! I pumped a lot of grease into the rudder zirk fittings, but the noise persisted.

Then I noticed that the quadrant was just a tad lower than it should be and it was binding on the wood frame of the gas box.

You guessed it! LOOSE NUTS on the quadrant had caused it to slide a couple inches down the rudder stock coming to rest on the frame to the gas box.

WTF is going on on my boat!!!! BR just turned 15 -- must be something to do with being a teenager.
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Clearly you have never paid good money to a monkey to hack your boat up

There are plenty of GOOD craft people out there BUT it can be painful weeding out the BAD
Billy: I am with you on the Never thought it should have budged opinion.

Sadly I dont think.... I know tommays has got it right on this one...

I have never ran into so consistent lot of, if not incompetent and least distracted and uninterested bunch of mechanics as there are in the marine industry.

I will apologise right now to all of you good ones out there servicing your customers well and doing your industry proud. And there are many I am sure.

But...and here I go again with my Heavy equipment analogy ( Sorry for beating the same horse but it applies in so many areas )...But I dont have stuff break loose on anything worked on by others in that arena...and we jar and vibrate and rattle the heck out of the stuff...we wear bolt head clean off we dont shake them loose but ever so vary, very, very rarely... And thats due to wearing the steel out between the hole and the bolt usually not them backing off.

I cant see it being any other reason myself....How did they get water in my boat?....yep they forgot to tighten something...plane and simple.

In my close to 3 year ordeal now dealing with 2 boatyards ...distraction and by that Im meaning yanking a guy off one boat to go do something on another seems way to prevalent and I have seen first hand lots of head scratching buy the new one assigned to the project to try and pick up where the first, second or third guy left off.
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Jeez Billy - hang in there man! What a freakin' nightmare!

Still - that's why people like Knothead really standout. People that see what they do as a craft - not simply a means to beer.

That has to be frustrating.
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Let me go on the record as saying that I did NOT put a loose nut in your engine bilge. But if I ever visit Smack's boat I may do that. (Smack - quick, tell me what color your engine is painted.)

Sorry to hear about the nuts. Good luck with them.
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No loose nuts in my bilge, pal. I don't care how blue they are.

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A few days into the trip I found a nut in the bilge...
You didn't leave on a Friday, perhaps, did you?
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I also sympathize. On a recent 800NM trip I had the temp alarm go off and by the time the steam had cleared I found the four bolts holding the water pump drive belt had worked loose and stopped the water pump. Luckily no engine damage (I really now appreciate the audible eng temp alarm) however the bolts had sheared their thread and of the literally hundreds of bolts on board do you think I could find 4 with the same thread!!!!! Result was 36 hours sailing to complete a 60NM coastal hop (my boat really does not like sailing into a 25kt headwind with sloppy seas), a tow by the sea search & rescue & a very pissed off wife!

In future I'm planning on getting some more plastic bins to sort all the bolts, nuts, etc, including different thread type, imperial / metric, as well as size & length. Every time I have needed one or two bolts I have always brought double the quantity to have spares. Hopefully continuation of this practice will help in the future.

Like a few other have said, I think it is impossible to check every single nut / bolt & screw. Having a maintenance plan helps, however I'm starting to concentrate on having the right spare bolt onboard.

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Castellated nuts

The aircraft industry uses studs and bolts with through-holes, along with castellated nuts and safety wire.

Usually done with special pliers to twist the wire.
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Hey billy...ya might want to give thoes keel bolts a couple quick spins by hand to the right.........


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Let me go on the record as saying that I did NOT put a loose nut in your engine bilge. But if I ever visit Smack's boat I may do that. (Smack - quick, tell me what color your engine is painted.)

Sorry to hear about the nuts. Good luck with them.

Bene -- IT WAS YOU! Come aboard for a few days and the boat gets loose!

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