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Tom is right. November can be REALLY COLD. The Gulf Stream can also get really nasty. In one Bermuda Race we beat for a more than a day into an 8' chop caused by an eddy going against the wind. Every third or fourth wave we simply sailed off the top of it, and the boat fell 8' into the trough. Down below, crew off watch in their bunks were getting thrown up against the underside of the deck. Wearing foulies below gave another layer of padding. Another item you might want to consider bringing would be clear goggles - either the ski or worktool safety type. In a 40-knot rainsquall that lasts a half hour, it can at times be helpful to be able to see.
I was going to bring googles anyway, because I wear contact lenses, and workshop googles are something I use on Lake Ontario...well, this time of year, anyway.

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Hey Val,
We live in sunny Queensland and dress up like a member of the Mawson expedition when it gets a little chilly. WOuld not, could not cope in your neck of the frozen arctic tundra. I would need battery powered thermals - or crew [learning a character building episode] and I could stay in my bed!


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A southbond trip early november is somehow a not well planned trip, to say the best. Your'e risking severe gales and hurricane encounter, specially this year's highlighted El Nino effects. I hope you have it in mind ... and yes, it will be a bit chilly sail, so beter to prepare yourself.

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Buy em Val.....you will there after always have them needed or not.

Good luck to you...and have a safe trip..looking forward to the updates.

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Bring foulies. I only have one pair, but its henry lloyd's ocean racer jacket and bibs. Retail they cost a mortgage payment. But I have NEVER turned down a sail due to weather. And if I was going offshore in Nov., you'd better believe I'd have em on board.

I'm with negrini, pick a different time of year, or risk 40 knots of breeze.

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I raced across the Gulf of Mexico in the middle of the summer. I was glad for every piece of equipment I had with me.

Sea boots
West Marine's best bibs
Heavy Offshore Jacket (borrowed from the boat owner as mine was just worn out)
Tons of layers to go underneath it all

For the two days that it blew and the 0230 reefing wake up calls I appreciated every piece of equipment I had on. I would not go off shore without a full layer of protection.

Not that even the best equipment will keep you dry, but will lessen the quantity of water from each wave over the bow that will make it all the way down to your skin. This allows the water already inside to at least warm up a bit. There could be days of brutal weather and foulies would allow you to spend more time in the cockpit and be more alert as a result of comfort.

But then again if you are cycling in December in Canada in a Kilt, you may be of heartier stock than me. Might I suggest a heavy wool kilt for the passage and a sport kilt for the time on the island.

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But then again if you are cycling in December in Canada in a Kilt, you may be of heartier stock than me. Might I suggest a heavy wool kilt for the passage and a sport kilt for the time on the island.
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And remember we froze are BUTTS off in august off the south shore of Long island


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For serious offshore, you want to stay warm and dry. For hands, forget the Gill and WM "cold weather sailing gloves". If it gets really wet, you'll be wringing water out of them 10 miinutes into a watch. For one trip, it's also not worth buying heavy duty goretex boots. Go to your local REI and get Seal Skin gloves and socks. They are waterPROOF, and work. I use them at night in Maine much more than my $300 DuBarry's. Size the socks so you can put another pair of socks beneath, and they'll be OK with a pair of Keens. Rubber boots are cheap and OK, but your feet will sweat. The Seal Skins really work.

Climbing/skiing/Biking shell layers are NOT the same as offshore FWG. I know. I thought I was going to freeze to death in Maine in July in my Arc'teryx ice climbing shell gear. If there is any way to swing it, at least get an offshore jacket with a high fleece-lined collar, wrist seals and hood. I love my Musto, but it is pricy as the dickens. My son has had very good luck with a much less expensive Gill. I think layering under a goretex bib or pants that are meant for skiing would be sufficient.

If you are going offshore, be sure the host has an extra inflatable PFD/harness and tether, or get your own.
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Dear Val,

As a former Hoser, (eh!) I would recommend the lighter, more flexible rain gear since you'll be layered, wearing a PFD with harness and GPS/Radio/strobe as well as your full fingered gloves. Depending on the angle of heel, the bib (though extra padding) may give you a grand wedgie when you bend in the shoulder straps but provide some protection from green water in your boots.
Staying behind the dodger with your hood tied will keep you the warmest.
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