Harbor Freight 316 stainless swageless fittings

[Stillraining]

In the Oil Field we called the drawings example "Okie-eyes" I Would not have one of those on my boat for all the beer in Germany.. We would put a couple cable clamps on the tails to secure them down...the last thing I want to do is Roughneck on my boat.

Knotty...is it possible to get the second pictures method of weaving in the tails to where you don't have fish kooks all over the place?

[knothead]

Originally Posted by Stillraining

In the Oil Field we called the drawings example "Okie-eyes" I Would not have one of those on my boat for all the beer in Germany.. We would put a couple cable clamps on the tails to secure them down...the last thing I want to do is Roughneck on my boat.

Knotty...is it possible to get the second pictures method of weaving in the tails to where you don't have fish kooks all over the place?

Don't ask me. I have three swaging machines.

Seriously though, yes. After the splice is served with seizing wire, there won't be any meat hooks.

[Sabreman]

knothead - I splice my own running rigging. Have for years and learned when I was in High School. I love marlinspike seamanship and have Hervey Garrett Smith's book (didn't even have to look up the name or spelling).

Splicing is rewarding, confidence building, and satisfies the cheapskate in me. I can do 3 strand in my sleep, but need to glance at instructions for yacht braid for a minute or two. Parallel core is the hardest for me but can git 'er done. Never had the opportunity or need to splice wire, though. But I'd give it a go if necessary.

But we're so far off topic that I'll shut up except to say that I would not buy HF fittings except for ornamental purposes. I own a couple of their floor woodworking tools and only buy them for non critical tasks like a sanding table. Never for something that my life would depend upon.

[knothead]

Originally Posted by Sabreman

knothead - I splice my own running rigging. Have for years and learned when I was in High School. I love marlinspike seamanship and have Hervey Garrett Smith's book (didn't even have to look up the name or spelling).

Splicing is rewarding, confidence building, and satisfies the cheapskate in me. I can do 3 strand in my sleep, but need to glance at instructions for yacht braid for a minute or two. Parallel core is the hardest for me but can git 'er done. Never had the opportunity or need to splice wire, though. But I'd give it a go if necessary.

But we're so far off topic that I'll shut up except to say that I would not buy HF fittings except for ornamental purposes. I own a couple of their floor woodworking tools and only buy them for non critical tasks like a sanding table. Never for something that my life would depend upon.

"The Marlinespike Sailor" by Hervey Garrett Smith was in some ways, the most influential book in my life.

My only point here is that it takes a certain amount of time and dedication to master splicing. Especially wire. Especially wire that you are staking your life on.
Not too many people want to commit to that. You and Tager have my respect. But all those who rely on a reliable and honest local rigger to swage them up a set of stainless steel standing rigging every decade or so have my respect too.

[LakeEscape]

HF, Northern Tool ... all the same junk. NT is good for trailer parts and pressure washers only. I enjoy spending cold winter mornings, cleaning up my running rigging, splicing in new shackles and making dock lines. When it comes to the wire ... riggingonly.com.

[Maine Sail]

Originally Posted by LakeEscape

HF, Northern Tool ... all the same junk.

Hmm.....

Northern Tool Brands: Honda, Dewalt, Generac, Sharp Solar Panels, Air X wind generators, Xantrex, Husqvarna, Troy-Bilt, Super Winch, Warn, Ramsey Winch, Bobcat, Wayne Pump, SHURflo Pumps, Omni-Filter, Kohler Engines, Brinkmann, Lacrosse, Fulton, Reese Hitches, Schumacher, Deka, Hobart Welders, Lincoln Electric, Wilton, Jet, ExTech, Ingersol Rand, Porter Cable, Wagner, Milwaukee, Bosch, 3M and many, many more


Harbor Freight Brands: ....................none that I can find in their catalog.............

[sailingdog]

This was based on a conversation I had with one of the riggers over at riggingonly.com, which is my local rigging shop. It had to do with the fact that the Suncor swageless terminals are not good for extended periods of time IIRC, due to a maintenance requirement particular to the Suncor design.

Originally Posted by knothead

Why have you come to that conclusion? According to a test that was done comparing their fittings to Sta-lok, Norseman and swages, the Quick Attach came out on top.

Here's a link to a previous thread where I posted the article.

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-m...7-sta-lok.html

[knothead]

Originally Posted by sailingdog

This was based on a conversation I had with one of the riggers over at riggingonly.com, which is my local rigging shop. It had to do with the fact that the Suncor swageless terminals are not good for extended periods of time IIRC, due to a maintenance requirement particular to the Suncor design.

Thanks SD. If you can remember the specifics, I would be interest in learning about it. I didn't know that there were any maintenance requirements.

[tager]

I would not suggest using a molly hogan splice on your boat, which is known as a "field expedient" it is meant to be very quick and easy to set up, and pretty good at the job. However, the liverpool splice is free, pretty simple, and proven strong. It is used when testing the maximum load of wire rope. I don't think they look out of place either, to me they look salty!

The point is, if you gave me a nail, a flat rock, and some wire rope, I could put a termination in it. If I gave you a checkbook, and some wire rope, you could put a termination in it.

But who can do it in the middle of the ocean? Or even in a remote community?

ME.

[knothead]

Originally Posted by tager

If I gave you a checkbook, and some wire rope, you could put a termination in it.

Who you talking to hotshot?

How bout a splice off. Anywhere, anytime.