Harbor Freight 316 stainless swageless fittings

[tager]

I'm game... how many tucks? 5,7, or 9?

[Stillraining]

Nope..I can do it as well and I will be done hours before you will be...some cost to it yes..but I like spending money..

On a side note...One of my daughters put one of these together at age 13...good luck with that with your method if you should say became incapacitated....also you will shorten the cable by a min of 2' to get it done...

Its a nice thing to say you are capable of doing and worthy of learning ..no argument there.....I'm a pretty good horse rider...but its now still a horribly outdated method of delivering the mail.

But Iv' got 3 horses for sale if you interested in thoes as well...

[tager]

Splices aren't outdated at all. They are still used in industry. Fancy yachties just feel the need to buy shiny doodads. Like quick attach terminals. They look cool, and they are quick and easy. Those are the only benefits of swaged or mechanical terminals. They are not as foolproof, they are not as strong, they tend to be the part of the rig that fails and puts your stick in the drink, and they are expensive.

I'm a pretty good sailor, but it's an outdated way of delivering the mail.

I can jump horses too, as well as plunk my bum in a western saddle and grab the horn, which imho takes no skill.

[Stillraining]

Put me down for 100 on Knotty..

[knothead]

Originally Posted by tager

I'm game... how many tucks? 5,7, or 9?

How about first a three strand eye splice, then a three strand long splice, then a three strand rope chain splice. Then we'll move onto a three strand rope to wire splice. Then we'll grab the double braid, then the high tech stuff for the core to core splices.
And we won't forget the end to end splices.

What are you trying to prove anyway? That splicing is good. No sh!t Sherlock. Who's gonna argue that.
My point is that most of the people that own boats aren't gonna spend the time, effort and blisters to learn how to do it in a way that is both professional and cost effective.
A lawyer or doctor is really making a poor investment of time if he gets to the point where he is able to splice wire with the same proficiency that he practices law or medicine. And even if he did, he ain't gonna get paid for his time nearly as well.

I completely get that it's good to have skills that in dire circumstances might save your life. It's good to at least be familiar with the concepts. But most boaters are much more interested in sailing than splicing and I don't blame them.
As a matter of fact, I encourage them in that way of thinking because I like to eat.
By the way, would you do your own surgery?

[tommays]

My NEW boat is a 1981 and that shiny NAVTEC stuff lasted till 2008 and still looked fine

I felt i would be pushing my luck to do ANOTHER season of racing SO i plonked down the outrageous sum of 700 dollars on some more shiny stuff that will be fine for another 15 years EASY

So that's like 46 bucks a year for rock solid standing rigging that included sending in my old stuff so they could be sure it would fit


Now my new OLD 1970 boat might be a bit more BUT i look at costs over a products useful live.

I do ALL my own stuff and i am cheep BUT there's just places you cant cut corners

[Stillraining]

Originally Posted by knothead

By the way, would you do your own surgery?

I think he would...after all its cheaper there for better..

All kidding aside ... I wouldn't mind learning whiling away the time somewhere...but I don't see it as a viable modern day connection anymore on a plastic boat..Too big and bulky...JMHO...but maybe on a ferro

[jmolan]

For me so much of why I like sailing is the boat.....ahhh.....condition. I love marlinspike skills and applying them. I like have really well placed items that work well. The right halyards (I built) etc. Maybe we should get a marlinspike thread going.
I was going to post some pics of my lifelines (1/4" Dynex Lashed for tension, no "hardwear") but the photo posting here is so lame I give up. Examples below of my boat and another that were recently re-rigged.

[Stillraining]

Originally Posted by jmolan

For me so much of why I like sailing is the boat.....ahhh.....condition. I love marlinspike skills and applying them. I like have really well placed items that work well. The right halyards (I built) etc. Maybe we should get a marlinspike thread going.
I was going to post some pics of my lifelines (1/4" Dynex Lashed for tension, no "hardwear") but the photo posting here is so lame I give up. Examples below of my boat and another that were recently re-rigged.

Hey Jim...Hows it going...Good to see you posting.

Yes you have taken your boat to a very high standard Jim...but it is not Harbor Frieght Hardware or Galvanized cable..

Buy the way is the spare room available??

[Maine Sail]

Splicing is fine if you are proficient, most are not.

A good friend with a Sabre 362 kept offering to do my double braid splices for me. I politely declined because I have an inside connection at Yale Cordage and can get my splices done for about $12.00 - $15.00 and never seen better splices anywhere. These guys do all the splicing for the military helicopter extraction lines and lots of work for the military.

So the long story short is that my buddy with the 362 thought he could save money by not buying Yale Polydyne mooring pendants. He spliced his own and lo and behold his boat wound up on the shore.... Did he save money? Nope he lost about 2K of hull deductible and a good chunk of the sailing season, can't put a price on that, all to save a few pennies.

Why would I even consider doing this myself when I have access to top quality riggers and splicers? I can do double braid and parallel core, and have done, but don't because I am not willing to dedicate my time, based on what I make per hour, when I can come out multiples ahead in a per hour cost paying a pro to do it.

I can't even begin to touch a splice this smooth nor will I dedicate the time to do so.. Yale Vizzion spliced by Yale Cordage: