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kwalt,

I'd say the claw makes good sense for your plans. What is the next size down from the 33? That is getting up there, but I'll mention that we manage our 35 lb cqr without a windlass.
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I have both Bruce 22lbs and a Danforth ~16lbs both with 15ft of chain for the Cal 9.2. The cruising grounds is an inland lake with clay and rock bottom. Nothing holds on the smooth slate, but both will hold on the gooey clay dirt bottom. The Bruce does a better job when the wind shifts even with several other boats tied up for an over nighter.
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I have an Ericson 27 and spent 15 years sailing the Great Lakes, primarily out of your area.

I'd get an inexpensive claw of some size. I use a 22lb that has held through some pretty nasty blows, the most memorable being South Manitou as the wind unexpectedly clocked to the east, throwing up 6' swells. It's held well in rock, mud, sand and just about anything I've thrown at it. I seem to recall that style getting better ratings than plow-styles from Practical Sailor.

I've had really good luck with Defender and a good claw from them is just $70.
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10391|33872|66342&id=66359

Keep in mind when buying anchors that you pay significantly for the brand and the design. The actual manufacture of many designs is a simple casting process that is hard to screw up. Claws fit into that category well. No moving parts adds a lot to the confidence in the anchor itself, in my opinion.

I also keep the larger Danforth as a second anchor and toss the mushroom and smaller Danforth. They aren't worth the extra load.

As for stowage, I keep my anchor in a locker down below as I don't have a roller, either. When I get a minute or two before needing it, I turn the helm over, grab it and go forward. It doesn't take but a minute and I'm ready to toss it in.

Lastly, keep in mind where you'll be. There are very few places on the Great Lakes that you'd be riding out 4-6' swells at anchor. If such an occasion came about, you'd be ready to pull the thing up and move or leave. Particularly in boats the size of ours.
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The cheap copies are cast. The originals are drop forged and it is a lot stronger. You're paying for a lot more than a name.
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Thanks to everyone who's contributed. This thread has been very useful in my decision making process. At this point I'm likely going to get a 33lbs Lewmar Horizon claw from West Marine so I don't have to pay shipping. While the 22 pounder is probably enough for my boat, I like the idea of going one size larger just to sleep a little better.
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Thanks to everyone who's contributed. This thread has been very useful in my decision making process. At this point I'm likely going to get a 33lbs Lewmar Horizon claw from West Marine so I don't have to pay shipping. While the 22 pounder is probably enough for my boat, I like the idea of going one size larger just to sleep a little better.
Good plan!

So, nothing between 22 and 33 lbs, eh? That's a 50% weight increase between sizes!
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Seems to be common - Rocna has the same size spread.
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As JohnRPollard said, that's quite a healthy jump. JD sizes that two sizes larger as for 35' boat:
Lewmar Horizon Claw Anchor

That would probably be the point where I would invest in a bow roller. My girlfriend doesn't like moving the 22 around and I think the 33 might just be a little more than she'd be willing to handle. However, tough to fault buying a larger anchor.

As a sidebar, length seems like the wrong way to size an anchor. Strikes me displacement would be more important.

@mitiempo, you make a good point and are correct. However, I have yet to find anyone who's had cast anchor itself break, particularly given most cruisers buy more anchor than they strictly need. As always, your mileage may vary.
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Now you guys are making me second guess my much-thought-out decision! Far as I can tell, the Lewmar Horizon (most common Bruce/claw) does not have sizes between 22lbs and 33lbs. I'm thinking the 22 will hold 99% of time, but if an extra 11lbs keeps me secure 100% I think it might be worth it.

Who was it that said "You know you have the right size anchor when your dockmates are laughing as you lug it down the dock towards your boat"?

Hmm...still, the 22 is rated for 31'-35' by most sources. My 28 footer isn't particularly heavy either at around 8,000lbs dry. Hmm...
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Displacement is more important, as is windage. As is wave action and of course scope is a factor. The heavier anchor will let you anchor with less scope at times and do it safely. I don't know how you would anchor properly without a bow roller. There has to be something at the bow to lead it over the side to prevent damage on any boat. It may as well be a roller so it's easier to haul back up.
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