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I am against propane simply on the basis that there are safer alternatives that are not totally inconvenient.
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Ah tager, but nothing cooks as well as propane. Ask any cook. And if treated properly it's perfectly safe.. Have you ever seen a good diesel explosion? It packs a lot more punch than propane. And then there's gasoline, which you probably use in your outboard....

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How about wood--its renewable

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A lot of things are perfectly safe if properly treated.
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"Have you ever seen a good diesel explosion?"
Saw one at a school homecoming bonfire. Threw a chair high and clear off the woodpile, made a ball about six stories high, and the chair landed on one of the football team.
Diesel wouldn't be a good fuel unless it had the ability to make good explosions. The stuff that doesn't explode easily, usually explodes very nicely. Like that underwear-bomber and the PETN. Odd that his teachers didn't teach him how to properly detonate it, very odd.
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An aquaintance once worked in an industrial shop that was heated by a diesel stove. It went out and he was slow to relight it. The fumes blew both the stove top and him through a wall. He survived but came to respect diesel more. All fuels are dangerous otherwise they woundn't be fuel. The opinion of alcohol as safe is very wrong. It's been known that when water is poured on the fire the fire just moves farther away - so it can be dangerous as well. It also stinks, is expensive, and is very slow. I've had primus type kerosene stoves that were certainly hot but a pain with preheating. Diesel like a Dickinson stove is great in a cooler climate as it heats the boat and the hot water tank as well. The fisherman up here used to say they'd start the stove at the beginning of the season and run it all year. If it got too hot they would just open the door. Electric is reserved for generator equipped power yachts mostly and they can have them as far as I'm concerned. That leaves propane and it is the most convenient, easiest to use, and affordable fuel I've ever used. Like all fuels it requires a proper installation and respect. It's also available worldwide more easily than some other fuels.

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Does anyone make a good diesel cook stove? Relative to the other alternatives (aside from wood) diesel would be the safest. In liquid form it is down right difficult to light sometimes, heck you can extinguish a lit match in the stuff, that's you not me.

Also I hadn't seen this before and thought it was a useful tidbit:
"As a rule of thumb, expect to use about 1 pound of propane
per person per week cooking three meals a day. So a full
10-pound tank should last a crew of two at least 5 weeks"
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Yes propane is very economical - 20 lb tank should last a liveaboard several monthe if he's alone. Also the cleanest fuel.
As far as diesel stoves there is Dickinson and Wallas. The Dickinson's are larger and heat the boat as well and can heat a water tank with a coil in them as well. The Wallas is also both a heater and a stove. They are pictured below. Here are the links
Dickinson Marine - Quality Marine Heaters and Stoves Since 1932
Wallas Stoves | Boat | Heater | Furnaces | Cooking Equipment | ScanMarineUSA.com
By the way you can extinguish a match in gasoline if there are no fumes as well. Propane is the only fuel that doesn't smell like one unless there's a leak.
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This is a great discussion, but I still need to know a few things. I'm sticking with propane.

1. Does anyone know a reasonably priced supplier of propane and propane accessories besides Hank Hill?

2. How the heck does a feller discern if I have a low or high pressure stove/oven?

BTW It's an old shipmate gimballed (how do you spell that??) two burner with oven. It cooks and bakes like a dream.


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As far as I know all appliances on a boat are low pressure except for some propane BBQs that are designed to have the small cannister attached to their side directly. This means that the regulator takes the high pressure out of the tank and outputs a low pressure flow to the stove or heater.
I'm not sure where "at large" is so don't know of a specific supplier near you. Any RV supplier should have what you need as far as hoses and regulators.

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