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Where's the dog on a case like this ?
I'll try to do a dog impression.

"Some pictures of the forward end of the boom and the gooseneck would help."

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Those vintage insulators on the backstay are of some concern too! Those are circa 1970 - when porcelain, rather than stainless steel with delrin bodies were first introduced. How old is you rig?
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Those vintage insulators on the backstay are of some concern too! Those are circa 1970 - when porcelain, rather than stainless steel with delrin bodies were first introduced. How old is you rig?

While I share your concern about the age of the rig, I have no problem with the ceramic insulators.
Actually, that is a very inexpensive and failsafe way of making an insulated backstay antenna.
Admittedly, there aren't too many riggers around who would willingly reuse those insulators.
It would save the customer too much money.
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So you are saying continuous wire through the eye hole of this old porcelain reusable insulator is safe? what about cracks in the porcelain, have you ever had a china dish crack and absorb water? Not anything I'm going to eat off of after water intrusion!
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Huh?
What I'm saying is that even if the thing breaks, the wire is interlocked.
Failsafe.
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I'll try to do a dog impression.

"Some pictures of the forward end of the boom and the gooseneck would help."

Nice impression Knotty. Some pictures of the goose neck could confirm if it was the rolling type of boom or not.
I think that the OP was not concerned (or perhaps even aware) whether his rig may have had (or not) the old, obsolete roller furling boom set up or not. I doubt anyone uses that set up even if it still works on their old boats (like mine).

Knotty answered the OP's question pretty well with: "The cast piece on the end of the boom fitting is just a pretty standard way of attaching your sheet and topping lift. Often they are just a stainless strap. The broken cast piece could easily be replaced."

I believe his rig is now using the becket that was intended for the outhaul to hold the topping lift as the piece on the end of the boom is broken on one side.

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Knothead is a rigger who works in FL so you should be honored that he chipped in to your thread. It is still free advice and worth what you paid for it but I'd take a riggers free advice over mine any day. He said what I was thinking but more succinctly - and with fewer words.

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The easiest good fix would be to remove the broken piece and replace it with a stainless strap with 3 holes, 1 in the center for the bolt which probably will have to be replaced with a shorter one and a hole in each end for the attachments.
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I may as well chime in here too! It really dosen't matter if this was a roller furling boom or not, and with out seeing a picture of the forward end of the boom , it is impossible to telll from the end boom fitting itself. It could be roller furling or not. Regardless, what needs to be done is to fix this thing before bad things happen!! . As usual, there is more than one way to do this. I think , rather than boom bales, I would remove the end fitting from the end of the boom, It looks like it might be held on by self tapping screws, but if not there may be some rivets. Once the fitting is off, you can then remove the broken rotating part. It is probably held on be some type of locking nut, washer, perhaps a cotter pin too. AT any rate, in order to remove that broken rotating part the fitting has to come off because that stainless hex head bolt is not going to just unscrew from the outside! Once off, you can fabricate a new piece from some stainless strap or flat stock. Make it about the same length as the old part. drill three holes in it one at each end and one in the middle or better yet probably a little off center so that it will hang with the longer "half" down. Bolt this back on(might need some washers or spacer between strap and back of cap(end boom fitting) ....or not.. .... Now you can connect your mainsheet ( or if you prefer, boomstay ) to the lower hole in the tang(or strap, or whatever you want to call it) and the topping lift to the upper hole. Now you can remove the outhaul from that "nubb" or whatever you wanna call it , and connect it to the eye( or hole or ring..what ever...) Since I can't see how your outhaul is set up , I can't say for sure if that is how it was originally set up or not, but my guess is, is that it was.
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A more detailed version of my suggestion. I agree.

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An I obviously, AGree with you.
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