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First, as pointed out previously, yours is older veneer that is probably a good deal thicker than the stuff sold today. Also, yours is over plywood, not fiberglass. Plywood is a more forgiving backing material imho.

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We have 45 years on our veneer on ply sole- I'd rate it "durable".

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First, as pointed out previously, yours is older veneer that is probably a good deal thicker than the stuff sold today. Also, yours is over plywood, not fiberglass. Plywood is a more forgiving backing material imho.
Hey Dog..... I almost jumped in the way Cormeum did but I figured you MUST have been talking about the OP directly veneering Teak and Holly to his fiberglass sole. Big difference. Having applied Teak veneer to the fiberglass walls of my previous boat I agree..... not a good idea. But as for the regular factory veneered Teak and Holly over ply soles that thousands and thousands of boats have come with before the vinyl stuff as long as you don't Attack it with a belt sander you can get a few re-finishes out of them. I have.

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Westwind Hardwoods in Sidney has teak & holly in 1/8" (3mm) as well for $225 a sheet (4 x 8).
I agree the 45 year old teak & holly probably has much thicker surface veneers. Nowadays it's close to a picture of teak.

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Considering the OP said:

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Teak and Holly Veneer Only?

Does it exist? my google searches have come up nil, just synthetics and then a few random places that I have to call to order, obviously they put the veneer on plywood but I can't find it anywhere

thanks for any help

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It sounded like he wants to apply the veneer directly to the fiberglass sole.




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Hey Dog..... I almost jumped in the way Cormeum did but I figured you MUST have been talking about the OP directly veneering Teak and Holly to his fiberglass sole. Big difference. Having applied Teak veneer to the fiberglass walls of my previous boat I agree..... not a good idea. But as for the regular factory veneered Teak and Holly over ply soles that thousands and thousands of boats have come with before the vinyl stuff as long as you don't Attack it with a belt sander you can get a few re-finishes out of them. I have.

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Boulter Ply in MA sells partial sheets. Also Maine Coast Lumber I believe. The veneered sole in my 25 year old Pearson is doing just fine although if redoing I would consider synthetic to avoid the maintenance.
BTW, as someone who purchases Teak 3-4 times a year for our shop I can tell you that the Teak available today is just as good as 30-40 years ago. Just don't get the plantation grown stuff from S America.
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But a bit more expensive now.

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Boulter Ply in MA sells partial sheets. Also Maine Coast Lumber I believe. The veneered sole in my 25 year old Pearson is doing just fine although if redoing I would consider synthetic to avoid the maintenance.
BTW, as someone who purchases Teak 3-4 times a year for our shop I can tell you that the Teak available today is just as good as 30-40 years ago. Just don't get the plantation grown stuff from S America.
We also buy a lot of teak and I would say that what is available here is definitly not the same ....It may be a question of who gets the "good stuff", we don’t.

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Beyond seconding what's been said about the inadvisability of applying a veneer to the plastic, I'd point out that you may well have thick plywood under the plastic sole. That gives the floor strength and rigidity.
In that case, all you'd need would be thin, i.e. 1/4 or 3/8 inch veneered plyood over the plastic. In such a situation, the only purpose that top layer of ply serves is as a base for the veneer.
And you do need a wood base for the veneer. Even then, gluing alternating strips of paper-thin teak and holly parquet to a proper wood surface is quite an art.
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Does anyone know the history of the whole idea of having a striped sole. Teak makes sense on a boat but what advantage is their to striping it with holly?

I know it is traditional but where did the tradition come from? Who did it first?

The only thing I can think of is that solid teak is too dark and the added the holly to lighten it up a bit.
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The Holly originally was ridged to provide some grip. At least that's what i've been told.
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