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I am considering repainting my hull in the spring (above the water line) and am wondering where is a good (cheap) place to buy Interlux Perfection? Conversely, would anyone recommend another product that is as good or better than Perfection for around the same price.
Another thing I wonder about is if anyone has seen or done a comparison between topside paints, ie. perfection awlgrip etc. I can roll and tip it on but also have a number of friends who could spray it for me. I want the best Job for the money
awl products are awesome, I have had cars and boats, and trained in an airplane that was done with awlgrip...but pricey for materials and are unforgiving of surface prep...if done right will last years..and still be beautiful.
until they get dinged or scraped...then the work comes in. I am told the newer paints can be blended and repaired, but cost are high to do so.
The sprayed jobs are almost always more consistent, if you can do that. FOr most DIYers, roll and tip and they say perfection is one of the best. I am still a rookie on the roll and tip, but my dinghy came out very nice..and I did it.
What I am interested in is best bang for the buck, Cost, longevity, repairability etc. It will get scrapes and dings so I need to be able to touch that up.
I don't mind hyping them again since they pay for our playground...you really should check out Marine.com as you shop. I didn't see Interlux Perfection on their list (other Interlux and Awlgrip stuff) - but I have found that their prices are typically very competitive with other sites.
Awlgrip and Interlux are two different companies. I painted my C-27 Interlux, my current is painted with Awlgrip. Poster stating the differences in terms of how it is marketed and applied s correct. But still two different entities two different products. Mega yacht owners still do touch ups to awlgrip by roll and tip... Kinda like saying that Dupont automotive paints are the same thing as PPG... they are not.
I feel the basic product is the same in that there two part paints that create a hard outer finish that does not lend it self to buffing or repiar
In painting my mast i did research and found that the Perfection's Viny-lux Primewash was a better system to prep aluminum as it did not require a water wash down like the Awlgrip aluminum prep did and was the final factor in using on that job
There are more advanced items in the products lines now that are alleged to allow repairs and many would argue that Imron is also a great paint
I can assure you its a painful learning cycle no matter which one you pick and it was far tougher to work with that the auto paints i had used in the past
I can assure you its a painful learning cycle no matter which one you pick and it was far tougher to work with that the auto paints i had used in the past
I have very little experience (Although I am great at french polishing and fine furniture finishing) which is why I thought I might get a friend to spray it but the roll and tip method is described as pretty easy. My friend is a professional industrial painter so I thought he might be able to do it but he hasn't ever painted a boat and done very little automotive. I don't have the time or money for "painful learning cycles", not for a one off paint job. I could always just leave it. It looks like crap but that doesn't affect the wy it sails.
My current project is screwed-up in ways i did not even think possible BUT painting the hull this summer will be by FAR the hardest job and the wife will NOT let it go back in fugly
My current project is screwed-up in ways i did not even think possible BUT painting the hull this summer will be by FAR the hardest job and the wife will NOT let it go back in fugly
you are scaring me off this project. I have to replace the entire cabin deck this spring as well as the core rotted but that should be a pretty straight forward job. I figured I would paint the hull while I have it up at my house and I had heard that the two part paints wern't that tough to work with. In the old days we would have just bought a couple of cans of Porch enamel and painted it every year.
MS 600 is a relatively new hybrid from Dupont. It combines the repair-ability of an acrylic urethane , like Imron or Awlcraft 2000, yet offers the gloss & durability of an LPU (linear polyester urethane)..
Thanks, Maine Sail. I have read your posts regarding the hard surface skin developed by polyesters and how it's great if undamaged, but can be harmed by buffing compounds. Does this new Imron have that attribute? What would happen if you loaded up a wheel with 3M compound and attacked it?
I painted my Alberg 37 with Perfection last year. It wasn't that bad. The most work was all the sanding and filling so that it would look good. The paint has a tendency to run if you put it on to thick, and doesn't start to run til you are well past the point when you can go back and fix it wet. This is not such a big deal cause you can just sand it down and put on another coat. My boat ended up with four coats, and the shine and depth in the paint is awesome. It also took less paint than calculated for two coats and I have a litre left over. Also, contrary to all recommendations I did it by myself with a roller, no tipping. It works well with light colours but the dark ones require tipping, so I am told. I painted mine fighting lady yellow. Go for it!
Spraying a lot of the two-part paints is not recommended unless you have a enclosed workshop with proper ventilation and the proper safety gear. Many of these paints have an isocyanate (cyanide based) component that can be very unhealthy to inhale.
Yes, I would have had a friend who is a professional spray it for me. He has all the Safety gear and equipment but we would have to spray outside. He didn't see any problem with that but then he hasn't used Perfection. Sounds like perfection is not designed for spraying. I'll also look into Imron as it is designed to be sprayed I understand.
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