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Hope you checked the bolts from the hardware store with a magnet. Good marine grade stainless steel is NON-MAGNETIC. The cheaper stainless steel is magnetic.
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Yes I did bring a magnet to Ace hardware store with me. The bolts are ok.

Most of Ace's stainless steel hardware were non magnetic. I actually tested many of their products. About 30% of their cotter pins were not ok. It looked like maybe they got a refill of inferior parts. I plan to tell them about it next time I'm there.

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I would replace those brushes, what do they cost $15 a piece?

It also looks like the gear (that the worm gear drives) is worn.
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I'll check the pricing for the brushes. Philsboat on the AS site said they are about 1/3 used up. I really don't want to mess with them if I don't have to, those springs are under a lot of tension.

I checked into the wormgear (as I've since learned it's called). After carefully reviewing the price (!), I won't be replacing it this time around, unless it's completely shot. What do you think?



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I now know where to turn when my 20+ yr old Nilson craps out. Good post!

PS. It's 80 this evening in Iles de Saintes. Full moon. French wine. Ceviche for dinner (dorado). Life is good. Make sure you get here!
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I would replace those brushes, what do they cost $15 a piece? ...
Thin,

I promised that I'd look into the brushes. The 4 brushes ended up being $115 on the IMTRA (Lofran's parts) website. (They are probably cheaper through a non-marine source, I'd bet.)

I'll stick with the one's I have for a bit longer. Thanks for the lead on those.

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I now know where to turn when my 20+ yr old Nilson craps out. Good post!

PS. It's 80 this evening in Iles de Saintes. Full moon. French wine. Ceviche for dinner (dorado). Life is good. Make sure you get here!
Billyruffin',

I actually had to look up Iles de Saintes on Google maps. Congratulations for getting there, in all the facets of life it took to get there. I knew you were headed south. Wow!

Let me know if you want any crew for the return trip.

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(OK, I had to look up Ceviche too.)

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I'm a Krytox fan, but if those parts are in the oil bath, wouldn't that be a waste? Better to stick with greases and oils that use the same base (petroleum or otherwise) if they're going to contact each other.
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What an awesome post. Thanks for sharing. Well done and congrats, expect to hear soon that it works perfectly.

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I checked into the wormgear (as I've since learned it's called). After carefully reviewing the price (!), I won't be replacing it this time around, unless it's completely shot. What do you think?


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Brad,

I know some will disagree, but once you're 'inside' a piece of equipment like that, I would be inclined to think that you're then in a typical industrial atmosphere.

Given that assumption, I would bet that those brushes, and the gear, are pretty typical industrial components.

Perhaps in the future you could check industrial suppliers for the brushes and for the gears.

Also, 30% mechanical wear off of a motor brush doesn't equate to 30% reduction in service life.

Because you need (about) 30% of the length of the brush to hold it in proper position, therefore you can only use the remaining 70% of the length (from when new), so I think those brushes are approaching 50% of life expectancy.

I don't claim to be an expert, but you mentioned that the brushes were replaced once, so perhaps you could check the brushes at the end of the '10 sailing season?

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When I suggested Krytox, I wasn't aware that the parts in question were in an oil bath. I wouldn't have suggesting using Krytox in that situation.
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